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September 24,2009

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I copied this from tonight's chat. The blanks next to a person's name is a smiley.

 

 

(07:41 PM) Stephanie - I'd like to pose a TOPIC related question, if I may ( yes...I did a special OMB invite)

 

 

(07:41 PM) Stephanie - I want to know opinions about buying ammo from individuals

 

 

(07:42 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(07:42 PM) WormGuy - your out of order Stepjanie

 

 

(07:42 PM) Stephanie - Lots' of people are selling as money gets tight

 

 

(07:42 PM) OldMaineBear - Pre-obama the ammunition sales in America was around 7 Billion rounds per year. After-obama it jumped to 9 Billion rounds.

 

 

(07:42 PM) Stephanie - oh no...here goes the procedures again

 

 

(07:42 PM) Stephanie - Wow, that's amazing OMB

 

 

(07:42 PM) Louis1 - As long as it's good stuff, go for it?

 

 

(07:43 PM) OldMaineBear - If they are selling factory loads, go for it. Watch for reloads. Not everybody is a good reloader. You don't know what your getting.

 

 

(07:43 PM) Louis1 - I don' unnerstand the question ............. surprise?

 

 

(07:43 PM) WormGuy - I have no problem buying from anyone as long as it is factory

 

 

(07:43 PM) Stephanie - But, that is the question...how do I know that they have stored it and handled it properly?

 

 

(07:43 PM) Louis1 - I wouldn't buy reloads from anyone

 

 

(07:43 PM) Mother - How does one tell if the ammo is good or not?

 

 

 

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(07:43 PM) Louis1 - If I didn't know them very, very well

 

 

(07:44 PM) Mother - and is it possible to tell reloads easily?

 

 

(07:44 PM) OldMaineBear - I take reloads from folks, but I break them down and salvage bullets and brass.

 

 

(07:44 PM) WormGuy - I've shot reloads that go fizzzzzzzz, dribble

 

 

(07:45 PM) OldMaineBear - Reloads generally show sizer die markings on the case.

 

 

(07:45 PM) WormGuy - I don't mess with them so I don't know

 

 

(07:45 PM) OldMaineBear - Look at the base for an expansion ring too. Hard to hide thet.

 

 

(07:45 PM) Louis1 - As far as individuals, I'd make sure it was original, factory ammo in original packaging

 

 

(07:46 PM) Louis1 - Or surplus, which I've bought from individuals too, but then you have to determine if it is good or not ..

 

 

(07:46 PM) Stephanie - Would it make a huge difference if they had stored it improperly?? Like in a humid environment?

 

 

(07:46 PM) Louis1 - Wouldn't buy anything if was loose, unpackaged rounds, just to be safe

 

 

(07:47 PM) Louis1 - Not unless the stuff was visibly corroded, IMO

 

 

(07:47 PM) OldMaineBear - Absolutely. Humidity will make the brass turn green. It will look like it has spots. Extreme cases it could ruin the powder.

 

 

(07:48 PM) Louis1 - But you will be able to see the corrosion easily

 

 

(07:48 PM) Stephanie - So visibly corroded would look like the brass turned greenish or spotted?

 

 

(07:48 PM) WormGuy - yes it would

 

 

 

 

 

(07:48 PM) OldMaineBear - That green is corrosion and that indicates a weakening at that spot. 95% of the time you can clean them up. That 5% can be deadly.

 

 

(07:49 PM) OldMaineBear - Remember you are basically igniting the surface of the sun with the heat and pressure, just a few inches from your face.

 

 

(07:49 PM) Stephanie - Well, then....what about proper storage?? I've been concerned about that.

 

 

(07:50 PM) Louis1 - It's not always green, either, could be an ugly whitish look

 

 

(07:50 PM) OldMaineBear - You want to make sure the case is sound.

 

 

(07:50 PM) Stephanie - I have tried to stock up a bit, and now I want to be sure it stays in good condition

 

 

(07:50 PM) Louis1 - Storage for how long?

 

 

(07:50 PM) OldMaineBear - Cool dry place is best. Get some Military ammo cans. They have a seal to keep out moisture.

 

 

(07:51 PM) Louis1 - Normally, keeping it in a fairly dry place is gonna be good enough for several years

 

 

(07:51 PM) Stephanie - What about the boxes that come with some of the Cabelo's orders?

 

 

(07:51 PM) Louis1 - A lot of us shoot surplus that is 50 years old and older

 

 

(07:51 PM) Louis1 - those plastic ones?

 

 

(07:52 PM) OldMaineBear - Friend of mine in Iowa had his house flood two years ago and his ammo cans were submerged. Opened them up and nice and dry.

 

 

(07:52 PM) Louis1 - They are ok, but I don't think they have a seal, I can check

 

 

(07:52 PM) Stephanie - That's like the giant green 'sardine' can that I got from Classic Arms?

 

 

(07:52 PM) OldMaineBear - Thos Dry Boxes are great too. They have a seal too.

 

 

(07:52 PM) Louis1 - No, not that

 

 

(07:53 PM) Louis1 - not the sardine can, it can't be closed

 

 

(07:53 PM) OldMaineBear - Not the sardine cans. I'm talking about the US Military cans with the flip seals.

 

 

(07:53 PM) Stephanie - Where can you get those?

 

 

(07:53 PM) Louis1 - http://www.petenelson.com/Photos/Misc/Guns/Ammo%20cans.jpg

 

 

(07:53 PM) Louis1 - http://www.petenelson.com/Photos/Misc/Guns/Ammo%20cans.jpg

 

 

(07:54 PM) WormGuy - I have one from Cabela's and it has a seal you have tp put on. Not the best but better than nothing

 

 

(07:54 PM) Louis1 - Local army surplus store usually, 10 bucks or so these days

 

 

(07:55 PM) Louis1 - http://www.armysurplusworld.com/display.as...epartmentID=118

 

 

(07:55 PM) Stephanie - okay, tyvm, I'll put those on my never ending list

 

 

(07:55 PM) OldMaineBear - https://www.mainemilitary.com/productcart/p...;idproduct=1098

 

 

(07:55 PM) Stephanie - Are the sardine can types okay for long term storage??

 

 

(07:55 PM) Louis1 - I like the .50 cal size best

 

 

(07:55 PM) OldMaineBear - Shop around for best prices.

 

 

(07:55 PM) Louis1 - Yeah, the sardines are good for a few decades

 

 

(07:55 PM) OldMaineBear - AS long as they aren't opened.

 

 

(07:56 PM) Louis1 - But you aren't going t find many common American calibers in those these days

 

 

(07:56 PM) Stephanie - ok, thanks

 

 

(07:57 PM) Louis1 - "Stephanie is once again monopolizing the conversation)

 

 

(07:57 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(07:57 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(07:58 PM) OldMaineBear - Someone has to ask all the questions. She's not shy.

 

 

(07:58 PM) OldMaineBear - Louis I just bought a Thompson Center Encore in 405 Winchester.

 

 

(07:58 PM) Necie - to louis!!!!!!!!!! hush man! i could listen to stephanie drawl and LAAAUGH all day!

 

 

(07:58 PM) Stephanie - Now you hurt me feelings and I'm going to pout...

 

 

(07:58 PM) Louis1 - .................... ................

 

 

(07:59 PM) Stephanie - Thanks Necie, good use of that ammunition...errrmmmm skillet!

 

 

(07:59 PM) Ambergris -

 

 

(07:59 PM) Louis1 - I've never even seen a .405?

 

 

(07:59 PM) Louis1 - big game?

 

 

(08:00 PM) OldMaineBear - Old caliber used by Teddy Roosevelt in a Winchester 95.

 

 

(08:00 PM) OldMaineBear - Moose

 

 

(08:01 PM) Louis1 - Well, now that some ammo is reasonable priced again, what are the common calibers used by the people here, handgun - wise?

 

 

(08:01 PM) Louis1 - I know Arby uses the clothyard shaft variety!

 

 

(08:02 PM) Mother - Just 22 long and short here

 

 

(08:02 PM) Ambergris - We no longer have handguns.

 

 

(08:03 PM) Stephanie - 9mm and 22 LR and magnum for us in handguns

 

 

(08:04 PM) arby - lol

 

 

(08:04 PM) OldMaineBear - Louis, you'll have to hold the fort. I'm coughing too much. Got to lie down.

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 - Our local walmart is starting to have decent stock of all the common calibers again

 

 

(08:04 PM) Ambergris - Hot lemonade, OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) WormGuy - .45, .380, 9mm

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 - Take care, OMB.

 

 

(08:04 PM) OldMaineBear - Imagine that, an Indian telling a white guy to hold the fort!!

 

 

(08:04 PM) WormGuy - get better OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Necie - awwww... feel better OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Mother - get well OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(08:05 PM) Mother -

 

 

(08:04 PM) Necie - awwww... feel better OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Mother - get well OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(08:05 PM) Mother -

 

 

(08:05 PM) WormGuy - same here at ours Louis

 

 

(08:05 PM) Stephanie - Byee OMB!! Feel Better!!

 

 

(08:05 PM) Louis1 - Hey, us Irish were painting our faces before youse guys!

 

 

(08:06 PM) Louis1 - I guess they are finally catching up on those unanticipated 2 billion rounds!

 

 

(08:07 PM) Louis1 - hey, ol'momma

 

 

(08:07 PM) Stephanie - Hi ol'momma!!

 

 

(08:07 PM) ol'momma - HI Everybody!!

 

 

(08:07 PM) WormGuy - prices are coming down but they need to drop more for me

 

 

(08:08 PM) arby - hi ol momma!

 

 

(08:08 PM) WormGuy - hi ol'momma

 

 

(08:08 PM) arby -

 

 

(08:08 PM) Louis1 - stephanie, you might like this price http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/7_62x39.html

 

 

(08:08 PM) ol'momma - Was at Big R today and noticed that they seem to have more in stock

 

 

(08:08 PM) Mother - Perhaps this isn't the subject but what about other ammo, like bolts and arrows.

 

 

(08:09 PM) Stephanie - Wow, that is a good price Louis, about $50 less than I paid a few months ago, thanks.

 

 

(08:09 PM) Mother - We have a nice cross bow pistol but can't seem to find reasonably priced bolts for it. They ARE called that aren't they?

 

 

(08:09 PM) WormGuy - I'm clueless Mother

 

 

(08:09 PM) Louis1 - I have lots of aluminum arrows, but no bow to shoot them with anymore

 

 

(08:09 PM) Stephanie - I think that's very much on subject Mother,

 

 

(08:10 PM) Louis1 - yes, they are.

 

 

(08:10 PM) Ambergris - I'm in the market for bolts (not the handgun size).

 

 

(08:10 PM) Louis1 - What size does it need, Mother? length?

 

 

(08:10 PM) Mother - We have a regular sized one too

 

Ambergris

 

 

(08:11 PM) Mother - 6? 8?? didn't know there was different sizes

 

 

(08:12 PM) Ambergris - My mind is not wrapping around numbers tonight. These bolts are armpit-to-wedding-ring long on me.

 

 

(08:12 PM) Louis1 - Maybe it doesn't, I don't know much about them, just know my father's shoots really straight!

 

 

(08:13 PM) Louis1 - where do you usually buy them?

 

 

(08:13 PM) Mother - We have quite a store of aluminum arrows as well and a nice recurve as well as an older long bow that shoots wonderfully yet but it's the small hand cross bow that needs bolts. We find the cheapo ones occassionally but those aren't great for much but target

 

 

(08:13 PM) Ambergris - I think these are about 18 inches?

 

 

(08:13 PM) Ambergris - Right. I want better bolts, but they charge $5.99 each here. I don't know if that's good or not

 

 

(08:14 PM) Mother - they are very short actually. possibly nine inches. Good ones will wing right through a critter

 

 

(08:14 PM) Mother - I'm not strong enough to use our regulation sized cross bow

 

 

(08:14 PM) arby - 6 inch bolts Dickssportinggoods.com

 

 

(08:14 PM) arby - 20 inch bolts also there.

 

 

(08:15 PM) arby - thats a standard price Ambergris

 

 

(08:15 PM) Mother - Thanks Arby we have one about forty five minutes from us, I'll have to look

 

 

(08:16 PM) Louis1 - 5-6 dollars is probably about as good as you'll find

 

 

(08:16 PM) arby - it would be easy enough to make bolts, you can even use duct tape for the feathers, cut can lids into arrow heads with tin snips....

 

 

(08:17 PM) arby - could manage extra arrows too that way

 

 

(08:17 PM) Louis1 - Mother, I did a quick search and found these 6" ones. Looks like a UK outfit. I think lots of people across the pond keep small crossbows

 

 

(08:17 PM) arby - dowels.

 

 

(08:17 PM) Louis1 - http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shop/ar...ing-350287.html

 

 

(08:17 PM) Mother - We've tried that arby. They just aren't as affective nor as accurate.

 

 

(08:18 PM) Louis1 - One could probably buy full size arrows and have them cut down to length cheaper than buying bolts

 

 

(08:18 PM) arby - ok, thanks for the info.

 

 

(08:18 PM) Mother - Good find Louis, thanks

 

 

(08:18 PM) Louis1 - Actually, most bow shops, you pick the size (diameter) you want and then they cut to length for you.

 

 

(10:40 PM) Stephanie - http://www.pickyourown.org/canningdriedbeans.htm

 

 

(10:40 PM) Stephanie - That's a good guide for the dried beans

 

 

(10:40 PM) snapshotmiki - Mom11 is sending me one. It should get here tomorrow or the next day. She is sending a Miki box-that is what she calls it

 

 

(10:41 PM) snapshotmiki - I will check out that site when I get off here. Thanks

 

 

(10:41 PM) Stephanie - awwww....how nice!

 

 

(10:41 PM) Stephanie - She seems like a very sweet person.

 

 

(10:43 PM) snapshotmiki - She always has so much going on in her life! We have emailed for over a year but I just spoke to her for the first time about a week ago.

 

 

(10:44 PM) Stephanie - that's really great

 

 

(10:44 PM) Stephanie - I've made so many great friends here at MrsS

 

 

(10:45 PM) snapshotmiki - I've been a member for quite a while but just started really posting this last year. Shy I guessLOL

 

 

 

 

 

(10:46 PM) snapshotmiki - Half of my posts are still pms I think

 

 

(10:47 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(10:47 PM) Stephanie - Wonder what the chat subject should be???

 

 

(10:47 PM) Stephanie - Something about firearms??

 

 

(10:48 PM) Stephanie - How about proper Ammunition storage??

 

 

(10:48 PM) Stephanie - Lots of people buying it...but wonder if they know how to properly store what they have bought??

 

 

(10:48 PM) snapshotmiki - You know, I felt really pushed to get that canner and sewing machine recently. I think our window is closing but I know how it ends too

 

 

(10:50 PM) snapshotmiki - I still don't have guns but am not sure in our situation if one would help. We aren't out in the country like I was as a child. Not sure--but I will stop in and learn anyway

 

 

(10:52 PM) Stephanie - hmmmmm....

 

 

(10:52 PM) snapshotmiki - Good night Steph! I'm going to go check out that bean site and head to bed.

 

 

(10:52 PM) Stephanie - well, I'll keep thinking about it

 

 

(10:52 PM) Stephanie - Good night!!

 

 

(10:52 PM) Stephanie - sleep tight!

 

 

(05:51 AM) Amishway Homesteaders - good morning all !

 

 

(05:51 AM) Amishway Homesteaders - first one in today?

 

 

(05:53 AM) Amishway Homesteaders - and we are off for the 'daytrip Train ride' hopeing to see lots of fall colored trees and great views of the finger lakes.

 

 

(09:21 AM) Stephanie - Hi you two!!! Hope the day trip is fantastic, it surely sounds nice!!

 

 

(09:21 AM) Stephanie - I just dropped by this morning to share a quote that I thought was really good.

 

 

(09:21 AM) Stephanie - "When I think of each of my children individually, I am especially fond of each one." from The Shack

 

 

(06:27 PM) Leah - I think the chat should be starting in an hour, if I figured the time correctly.

 

 

(06:43 PM) Ambergris - hello?

 

 

(07:19 PM) Stephanie - I'm early!!!! Hey Ambergris!!

 

 

(07:20 PM) Ambergris - hey

 

 

(07:21 PM) arby - hello there!

 

 

(07:21 PM) Ambergris - I'm listening to cases, so if I disappear it means someone said something importnat

 

 

(07:21 PM) Ambergris - hey Arby

 

 

(07:21 PM) Stephanie - And there's Arby!!!

 

 

(07:21 PM) Ambergris - brb

 

 

(07:21 PM) Stephanie - okay Ambergris

 

 

(07:22 PM) arby -

 

 

(07:22 PM) Ambergris - back

 

 

(07:24 PM) arby - our region is getting ready for the swine flu. Stay at home policy if sick but if people keep getting it, they will quarantine whole towns I think, from what I have gathered.

 

 

(07:24 PM) arby - Glad I have food!

 

 

(07:25 PM) Ambergris - My dh and I had the mild version

 

 

(07:25 PM) arby - setting up places too to isolate persons I guess. Probably the old jail here would serve the purpose.....if it came to that.

 

 

(07:26 PM) arby - ah, well thats good!

 

 

(07:26 PM) arby - if I get sick with it I hope its mild!

 

 

(07:26 PM) Ambergris - I was miserable, but not flu-miserable

 

 

(07:27 PM) arby - yeah, I bet

 

 

(07:27 PM) Ambergris - Got in trouble at work, of course

 

 

(07:27 PM) Ambergris - Stephanie?

 

 

(07:27 PM) Stephanie - here I am

 

 

(07:27 PM) Stephanie - went to fill up coffee mug

 

 

(07:27 PM) Ambergris - ah

 

 

(07:28 PM) Ambergris - DH is fetching tea for me.

 

 

(07:28 PM) arby - sounds good. I had some extra coffee this afternoon.

 

 

(07:28 PM) arby - awwww, thats sweet

 

 

(07:28 PM) Ambergris - He is

 

 

(07:29 PM) Stephanie - the kids SUDDENLY all need me

 

 

(07:29 PM) Stephanie - amazing!

 

 

(07:29 PM) arby -

 

 

(07:29 PM) arby - lol.

 

 

(07:29 PM) arby - I am so glad the storm moved north of tenn last night Steph.

 

 

(07:29 PM) Ambergris - like when they were toddlers, and you had the gall to want a bath

 

 

(07:30 PM) arby - hello Mother!

 

 

(07:30 PM) Mother - Hello Arby and everyone

 

 

(07:32 PM) OldMaineBear - Bear present and accounted for!!

 

 

(07:32 PM) arby - Heyyyyyyy, OMB!

 

 

(07:32 PM) arby - Hello Necie

 

 

(07:32 PM) Mother - Hello OMB, nice to have you here tonight. How are you doing?

 

 

(07:32 PM) OldMaineBear - Cough Cough Hack Hack AhhhChhooooo

 

 

(07:32 PM) Ambergris - backi

 

 

(07:32 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(07:33 PM) Mother - Hello Necie

 

 

(07:33 PM) Ambergris - hey, Mother and OMB

 

 

(07:33 PM) Ambergris - Hi, Necie

 

 

(07:33 PM) arby - oh dear, OMB, not feeling well ?

 

 

(07:33 PM) Stephanie - now...where is Louis??

 

 

(07:33 PM) Ambergris - Hi, Louis

 

 

(07:33 PM) Mother - oh no, not the dreaded FLU?

 

 

(07:33 PM) arby - hi Louis

 

 

(07:33 PM) Louis1 - hey

 

 

(07:33 PM) OldMaineBear - Bad cold.

 

 

(07:33 PM) Stephanie - (((OMB)))

 

 

(07:33 PM) Ambergris - I thought I'd chased you out

 

 

(07:33 PM) OldMaineBear - Louis!!

 

 

(07:34 PM) Stephanie - Howdy Louis! The Chief Chat Dude has arrived.

 

 

(07:34 PM) Louis1 - crowd here!

 

 

(07:34 PM) Mother - OMB, did you sanitize your keyboard?

 

 

(07:34 PM) Stephanie - The crowd looks great!

 

 

(07:34 PM) Necie - howdy all

 

 

(07:34 PM) Louis1 - How are you, OMB

 

 

(07:35 PM) OldMaineBear - Dosed it with Norton and I'm gargling McAfee

 

 

(07:35 PM) Stephanie - ((((Necie))) Good to see you friend!!

 

 

(07:35 PM) Necie - rushed home from work...good thing it was not busy tonight or i'd have been rushing much sloooower

 

 

(07:35 PM) Ambergris - Good

 

 

(07:35 PM) Mother - Well that's good and maybe the rest of us won't catch it then LOL

 

 

(07:35 PM) Stephanie - How is Kagan Necie?

 

 

(07:36 PM) OldMaineBear -

 

 

(07:36 PM) Necie - little bugger chewed through his tether cable....

 

 

(07:36 PM) Necie - so he spent the day in the pen with E-Z the buck LOL

 

 

(07:37 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(07:37 PM) Louis1 - Hi, John

 

 

(07:37 PM) Stephanie - And there's JOHN!!! and MIK!!

 

 

(07:37 PM) Louis1 - and Mik

 

 

(07:37 PM) Stephanie - Great group!

 

 

(07:37 PM) arby - Heyyyyyyy Wormguy!

 

 

(07:37 PM) WormGuy - hey Louis and everyone else

 

 

(07:38 PM) arby - hi Miki!

 

 

(07:38 PM) OldMaineBear - Hiya Wormy

 

 

(07:38 PM) snapshotmiki - I'm just here to learn tonight. I'll be good and I'll be quiet! Promise

 

 

(07:38 PM) Ambergris - hi, Wormguy!

 

 

(07:38 PM) Necie - howdy wormie and miki

 

 

 

 

 

(07:38 PM) Ambergris - hi, Snapshot miki

 

 

(07:38 PM) Louis1 - Steph's topic?

 

 

(07:38 PM) WormGuy - hey Arby

 

 

(07:38 PM) WormGuy - hey Bear

 

 

(07:38 PM) Louis1 - what was it?

 

 

(07:38 PM) OldMaineBear - I haven't been around much lately. Missed the shoutbox.

 

 

(07:38 PM) snapshotmiki - Hi Arby and Louis and Wormguy . Where is Steph?

 

 

(07:39 PM) Stephanie - HERE I BE!!

 

 

(07:39 PM) Louis1 - she's here

 

 

(07:39 PM) snapshotmiki - Hi Necie and OMB!

 

 

(07:39 PM) arby - shes back and forth. the kids I htink

 

 

(07:39 PM) OldMaineBear - Ammunition I think Louis

 

 

(07:39 PM) arby - think

 

 

(07:39 PM) Louis1 - How could you miss that accent?

 

 

(07:39 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(07:39 PM) snapshotmiki - Hi Ambergris. Didn't mean to miss you there

 

 

(07:39 PM) Stephanie - AMMUNITION

 

 

(07:40 PM) arby - tomorrow should be good for fall pics, miki, the colors really starting to come on now.

 

 

(07:40 PM) Ambergris - I'm in and out, really

 

 

(07:40 PM) arby - mostly sunny. nice

 

 

(07:40 PM) Stephanie - shortages, proper storage, differences in brands, etc...

 

 

(07:40 PM) Louis1 - zombie repellent

 

 

(07:40 PM) snapshotmiki - I bet you will get some great ones! That's a lot of megapixels

 

 

(07:40 PM) WormGuy - lol

 

 

 

 

 

(07:41 PM) Louis1 - Good thing you brought in a Bearish expert, eh?

 

 

(07:41 PM) arby - yes!

 

 

(07:41 PM) arby - ok, ammo

 

 

(07:41 PM) Stephanie - I'd like to pose a TOPIC related question, if I may ( yes...I did a special OMB invite)

 

 

(07:41 PM) Stephanie - I want to know opinions about buying ammo from individuals

 

 

(07:42 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(07:42 PM) WormGuy - your out of order Stepjanie

 

 

(07:42 PM) Stephanie - Lots' of people are selling as money gets tight

 

 

(07:42 PM) OldMaineBear - Pre-obama the ammunition sales in America was around 7 Billion rounds per year. After-obama it jumped to 9 Billion rounds.

 

 

(07:42 PM) Stephanie - oh no...here goes the procedures again

 

 

(07:42 PM) Stephanie - Wow, that's amazing OMB

 

 

(07:42 PM) Louis1 - As long as it's good stuff, go for it?

 

 

(07:43 PM) OldMaineBear - If they are selling factory loads, go for it. Watch for reloads. Not everybody is a good reloader. You don't know what your getting.

 

 

(07:43 PM) Louis1 - I don' unnerstand the question ............. surprise?

 

 

(07:43 PM) WormGuy - I have no problem buying from anyone as long as it is factory

 

 

(07:43 PM) Stephanie - But, that is the question...how do I know that they have stored it and handled it properly?

 

 

(07:43 PM) Louis1 - I wouldn't buy reloads from anyone

 

 

(07:43 PM) Mother - How does one tell if the ammo is good or not?

 

 

 

 

 

(07:43 PM) Louis1 - If I didn't know them very, very well

 

 

(07:44 PM) Mother - and is it possible to tell reloads easily?

 

 

(07:44 PM) OldMaineBear - I take reloads from folks, but I break them down and salvage bullets and brass.

 

 

(07:44 PM) WormGuy - I've shot reloads that go fizzzzzzzz, dribble

 

 

(07:45 PM) OldMaineBear - Reloads generally show sizer die markings on the case.

 

 

(07:45 PM) WormGuy - I don't mess with them so I don't know

 

 

(07:45 PM) OldMaineBear - Look at the base for an expansion ring too. Hard to hide thet.

 

 

(07:45 PM) Louis1 - As far as individuals, I'd make sure it was original, factory ammo in original packaging

 

 

(07:46 PM) Louis1 - Or surplus, which I've bought from individuals too, but then you have to determine if it is good or not ..

 

 

(07:46 PM) Stephanie - Would it make a huge difference if they had stored it improperly?? Like in a humid environment?

 

 

(07:46 PM) Louis1 - Wouldn't buy anything if was loose, unpackaged rounds, just to be safe

 

 

(07:47 PM) Louis1 - Not unless the stuff was visibly corroded, IMO

 

 

(07:47 PM) OldMaineBear - Absolutely. Humidity will make the brass turn green. It will look like it has spots. Extreme cases it could ruin the powder.

 

 

(07:48 PM) Louis1 - But you will be able to see the corrosion easily

 

 

(07:48 PM) Stephanie - So visibly corroded would look like the brass turned greenish or spotted?

 

 

(07:48 PM) WormGuy - yes it would

 

 

 

 

 

(07:48 PM) OldMaineBear - That green is corrosion and that indicates a weakening at that spot. 95% of the time you can clean them up. That 5% can be deadly.

 

 

(07:49 PM) OldMaineBear - Remember you are basically igniting the surface of the sun with the heat and pressure, just a few inches from your face.

 

 

(07:49 PM) Stephanie - Well, then....what about proper storage?? I've been concerned about that.

 

 

(07:50 PM) Louis1 - It's not always green, either, could be an ugly whitish look

 

 

(07:50 PM) OldMaineBear - You want to make sure the case is sound.

 

 

(07:50 PM) Stephanie - I have tried to stock up a bit, and now I want to be sure it stays in good condition

 

 

(07:50 PM) Louis1 - Storage for how long?

 

 

(07:50 PM) OldMaineBear - Cool dry place is best. Get some Military ammo cans. They have a seal to keep out moisture.

 

 

(07:51 PM) Louis1 - Normally, keeping it in a fairly dry place is gonna be good enough for several years

 

 

(07:51 PM) Stephanie - What about the boxes that come with some of the Cabelo's orders?

 

 

(07:51 PM) Louis1 - A lot of us shoot surplus that is 50 years old and older

 

 

(07:51 PM) Louis1 - those plastic ones?

 

 

(07:52 PM) OldMaineBear - Friend of mine in Iowa had his house flood two years ago and his ammo cans were submerged. Opened them up and nice and dry.

 

 

(07:52 PM) Louis1 - They are ok, but I don't think they have a seal, I can check

 

 

(07:52 PM) Stephanie - That's like the giant green 'sardine' can that I got from Classic Arms?

 

 

(07:52 PM) OldMaineBear - Thos Dry Boxes are great too. They have a seal too.

 

 

(07:52 PM) Louis1 - No, not that

 

 

(07:53 PM) Louis1 - not the sardine can, it can't be closed

 

 

(07:53 PM) OldMaineBear - Not the sardine cans. I'm talking about the US Military cans with the flip seals.

 

 

(07:53 PM) Stephanie - Where can you get those?

 

 

(07:53 PM) Louis1 - http://www.petenelson.com/Photos/Misc/Guns/Ammo%20cans.jpg

 

 

(07:53 PM) Louis1 - http://www.petenelson.com/Photos/Misc/Guns/Ammo%20cans.jpg

 

 

(07:54 PM) WormGuy - I have one from Cabela's and it has a seal you have tp put on. Not the best but better than nothing

 

 

(07:54 PM) Louis1 - Local army surplus store usually, 10 bucks or so these days

 

 

(07:55 PM) Louis1 - http://www.armysurplusworld.com/display.as...epartmentID=118

 

 

(07:55 PM) Stephanie - okay, tyvm, I'll put those on my never ending list

 

 

(07:55 PM) OldMaineBear - https://www.mainemilitary.com/productcart/p...;idproduct=1098

 

 

(07:55 PM) Stephanie - Are the sardine can types okay for long term storage??

 

 

(07:55 PM) Louis1 - I like the .50 cal size best

 

 

(07:55 PM) OldMaineBear - Shop around for best prices.

 

 

(07:55 PM) Louis1 - Yeah, the sardines are good for a few decades

 

 

(07:55 PM) OldMaineBear - AS long as they aren't opened.

 

 

(07:56 PM) Louis1 - But you aren't going t find many common American calibers in those these days

 

 

(07:56 PM) Stephanie - ok, thanks

 

 

(07:57 PM) Louis1 - "Stephanie is once again monopolizing the conversation)

 

 

(07:57 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(07:57 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(07:58 PM) OldMaineBear - Someone has to ask all the questions. She's not shy.

 

 

(07:58 PM) OldMaineBear - Louis I just bought a Thompson Center Encore in 405 Winchester.

 

 

(07:58 PM) Necie - to louis!!!!!!!!!! hush man! i could listen to stephanie drawl and LAAAUGH all day!

 

 

(07:58 PM) Stephanie - Now you hurt me feelings and I'm going to pout...

 

 

(07:58 PM) Louis1 - .................... ................

 

 

(07:59 PM) Stephanie - Thanks Necie, good use of that ammunition...errrmmmm skillet!

 

 

(07:59 PM) Ambergris -

 

 

(07:59 PM) Louis1 - I've never even seen a .405?

 

 

(07:59 PM) Louis1 - big game?

 

 

(08:00 PM) OldMaineBear - Old caliber used by Teddy Roosevelt in a Winchester 95.

 

 

(08:00 PM) OldMaineBear - Moose

 

 

(08:01 PM) Louis1 - Well, now that some ammo is reasonable priced again, what are the common calibers used by the people here, handgun - wise?

 

 

(08:01 PM) Louis1 - I know Arby uses the clothyard shaft variety!

 

 

(08:02 PM) Mother - Just 22 long and short here

 

 

(08:02 PM) Ambergris - We no longer have handguns.

 

 

(08:03 PM) Stephanie - 9mm and 22 LR and magnum for us in handguns

 

 

(08:04 PM) arby - lol

 

 

(08:04 PM) OldMaineBear - Louis, you'll have to hold the fort. I'm coughing too much. Got to lie down.

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 - Our local walmart is starting to have decent stock of all the common calibers again

 

 

(08:04 PM) Ambergris - Hot lemonade, OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) WormGuy - .45, .380, 9mm

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 - Take care, OMB.

 

 

(08:04 PM) OldMaineBear - Imagine that, an Indian telling a white guy to hold the fort!!

 

 

(08:04 PM) WormGuy - get better OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Necie - awwww... feel better OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Mother - get well OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(08:05 PM) Mother -

 

 

(08:04 PM) Necie - awwww... feel better OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Mother - get well OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(08:05 PM) Mother -

 

 

(08:05 PM) WormGuy - same here at ours Louis

 

 

(08:05 PM) Stephanie - Byee OMB!! Feel Better!!

 

 

(08:05 PM) Louis1 - Hey, us Irish were painting our faces before youse guys!

 

 

(08:06 PM) Louis1 - I guess they are finally catching up on those unanticipated 2 billion rounds!

 

 

(08:07 PM) Louis1 - hey, ol'momma

 

 

(08:07 PM) Stephanie - Hi ol'momma!!

 

 

(08:07 PM) ol'momma - HI Everybody!!

 

 

(08:07 PM) WormGuy - prices are coming down but they need to drop more for me

 

 

(08:08 PM) arby - hi ol momma!

 

 

(08:08 PM) WormGuy - hi ol'momma

 

 

(08:08 PM) arby -

 

 

(08:08 PM) Louis1 - stephanie, you might like this price http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/7_62x39.html

 

 

(08:08 PM) ol'momma - Was at Big R today and noticed that they seem to have more in stock

 

 

(08:08 PM) Mother - Perhaps this isn't the subject but what about other ammo, like bolts and arrows.

 

 

(08:09 PM) Stephanie - Wow, that is a good price Louis, about $50 less than I paid a few months ago, thanks.

 

 

(08:09 PM) Mother - We have a nice cross bow pistol but can't seem to find reasonably priced bolts for it. They ARE called that aren't they?

 

 

(08:09 PM) WormGuy - I'm clueless Mother

 

 

(08:09 PM) Louis1 - I have lots of aluminum arrows, but no bow to shoot them with anymore

 

 

(08:09 PM) Stephanie - I think that's very much on subject Mother,

 

 

(08:10 PM) Louis1 - yes, they are.

 

 

(08:10 PM) Ambergris - I'm in the market for bolts (not the handgun size).

 

 

(08:10 PM) Louis1 - What size does it need, Mother? length?

 

 

(08:10 PM) Mother - We have a regular sized one too

 

Ambergris

 

 

(08:11 PM) Mother - 6? 8?? didn't know there was different sizes

 

 

(08:12 PM) Ambergris - My mind is not wrapping around numbers tonight. These bolts are armpit-to-wedding-ring long on me.

 

 

(08:12 PM) Louis1 - Maybe it doesn't, I don't know much about them, just know my father's shoots really straight!

 

 

(08:13 PM) Louis1 - where do you usually buy them?

 

 

(08:13 PM) Mother - We have quite a store of aluminum arrows as well and a nice recurve as well as an older long bow that shoots wonderfully yet but it's the small hand cross bow that needs bolts. We find the cheapo ones occassionally but those aren't great for much but target

 

 

(08:13 PM) Ambergris - I think these are about 18 inches?

 

 

(08:13 PM) Ambergris - Right. I want better bolts, but they charge $5.99 each here. I don't know if that's good or not

 

 

(08:14 PM) Mother - they are very short actually. possibly nine inches. Good ones will wing right through a critter

 

 

(08:14 PM) Mother - I'm not strong enough to use our regulation sized cross bow

 

 

(08:14 PM) arby - 6 inch bolts Dickssportinggoods.com

 

 

(08:14 PM) arby - 20 inch bolts also there.

 

 

(08:15 PM) arby - thats a standard price Ambergris

 

 

(08:15 PM) Mother - Thanks Arby we have one about forty five minutes from us, I'll have to look

 

 

 

 

 

(08:16 PM) Louis1 - 5-6 dollars is probably about as good as you'll find

 

 

(08:16 PM) arby - it would be easy enough to make bolts, you can even use duct tape for the feathers, cut can lids into arrow heads with tin snips....

 

 

(08:17 PM) arby - could manage extra arrows too that way

 

 

(08:17 PM) Louis1 - Mother, I did a quick search and found these 6" ones. Looks like a UK outfit. I think lots of people across the pond keep small crossbows

 

 

(08:17 PM) arby - dowels.

 

 

(08:17 PM) Louis1 - http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shop/ar...ing-350287.html

 

 

(08:17 PM) Mother - We've tried that arby. They just aren't as affective nor as accurate.

 

 

 

 

 

(08:18 PM) Louis1 - One could probably buy full size arrows and have them cut down to length cheaper than buying bolts

 

 

(08:18 PM) arby - ok, thanks for the info.

 

 

(08:18 PM) Mother - Good find Louis, thanks

 

 

(08:18 PM) Louis1 - Actually, most bow shops, you pick the size (diameter) you want and then they cut to length for you.

 

 

(08:19 PM) Louis1 - That might be the least expensive way to go!

 

 

(08:19 PM) Mother - wonder if I can find these state side?

 

 

(08:19 PM) Ambergris - Regular arrows aren't designed for the power of a crossbow, though

 

 

(08:19 PM) Louis1 - Good arrows aren't sold / manufactured to length ahead of time these days

 

 

(08:20 PM) Ambergris - My arrows are about 30% narrower than my bolts, and are much more flexible

 

 

(08:20 PM) Mother - We used to have a guy who repaired bows just down the road and it was a lot more expensive to have them cut down but he used to make them for us. He's not here any longer. Actually,,,,he's in prison... groan....

 

 

(08:20 PM) arby - no short bolts in stock online right now at dicks.

 

 

(08:20 PM) Louis1 - I'd bet a decent archery shop could cut any length bolt to size for you, though

 

 

(08:21 PM) Mother - Ambergris is right, even though our small cross bow is a cheaper one, that thing really belts out a bolt

 

 

(08:21 PM) Louis1 - Amber, do you think it would matter for an aluminum shafted arrow?

 

 

(08:21 PM) WormGuy - does anyone have a problem with me posting this chat?

 

 

(08:22 PM) Ambergris - I don'tknow. We have wood, aluminum, carbon, and fiberglas arrows, but only one material for the bolts

 

 

(08:22 PM) Louis1 - I mean, modern cpd bows and crossbows aren't that different in speed ........

 

 

(08:22 PM) ol'momma - not me wormy...I'm just fallowing along.

 

 

(08:23 PM) Ambergris - My crossbow is 165 lbs. My other bows are about 45 lbs.

 

 

(08:23 PM) Louis1 - I prolly have 4-5 dozen arrows, all good ones, but no bow, lol

 

 

(08:23 PM) ol'momma - I've said nothing that anyone can blackmail me with later...

 

 

(08:24 PM) Ambergris - Why don't you get a bow?

 

 

(08:24 PM) WormGuy - not yet anyway

 

 

(08:24 PM) Louis1 - How fast does the crossbow move them?

 

 

(08:24 PM) Louis1 - Oh, I sold or traded mine off when I quit bow hunting

 

 

(08:24 PM) Ambergris - I don't know.

 

 

(08:25 PM) ol'momma - True nuff.

 

 

(08:25 PM) Ambergris - But they arrive with shattering force, compared to the arrows.

 

 

(08:25 PM) Mother - Our regular cross bow is 150 lbs I believe but I have no idea what the pistol one is. Nor my older bows

 

 

(08:25 PM) Louis1 - (and the perpetual shoulder pain had a little to do with that, lol)

 

 

(08:26 PM) Ambergris - My dh's shoulder has something to do with the reduction in archery supplies around here too

 

 

(08:26 PM) Ambergris - That and someone's inadvertant shattering of his left-handed Bear.

 

 

(08:26 PM) Mother - I only know that I can use the bows easier than I can the guns. I'm even a better shot with the sling shot than I am with a gun but then that's what I learned on as a kid.

 

 

(08:27 PM) arby - actually they are fairly similar in fps speed .....

 

 

(08:27 PM) Stephanie - That's exactly what my dh has Ambergris

 

 

(08:27 PM) ol'momma - I'm gonna depart . Nice seeing you all for a change!!Hugs all around.

 

 

(08:28 PM) Mother - We have a compound too but I've never been able to use either that or the big cross bow, can't even begin too.

 

 

(08:28 PM) Ambergris - night, olmomma

 

 

(08:28 PM) Mother - Night ol'momma

 

 

(08:28 PM) Stephanie - Well, y'all enjoy!! I promised Henry I would only be an hour!

 

 

(08:28 PM) Louis1 - I learned on a 50# recurve ....................... cpd bows are much easier

 

 

(08:28 PM) Stephanie - I'll walk out with you Ol'm

 

 

(08:28 PM) arby - bye ladies!

 

 

(08:28 PM) Ambergris - night, Stephanie

 

 

(08:28 PM) WormGuy - nite ol'momma

 

 

(08:28 PM) Louis1 - nite ol'

 

 

(08:29 PM) WormGuy - nite Stephanie

 

 

(08:29 PM) Louis1 - and Steph

 

 

(08:29 PM) Stephanie - I enjoyed it very much and hope we do it again!!

 

 

(08:29 PM) Necie - mother...did you say you tried to use dowel in the pistol cross bow?

 

 

(08:29 PM) snapshotmiki - Night Steph, olm and Arby

 

 

(08:30 PM) Mother - I best walk out with them for safety sakes too LOL Night all

 

 

 

 

 

(08:30 PM) Ambergris - Night, Mother

 

 

(08:30 PM) WormGuy - nite Mother

 

 

(08:29 PM) snapshotmiki - Night Steph, olm and Arby

 

 

(08:30 PM) Mother - I best walk out with them for safety sakes too LOL Night all

 

 

 

 

 

(08:30 PM) Ambergris - Night, Mother

 

 

(08:30 PM) WormGuy - nite Mother

 

 

(08:30 PM) Mother - sorry necie, Yeah, we did try them with the pistol cross bow and they aren't very accurate

 

 

(08:31 PM) Necie - be careful....

 

 

(08:31 PM) snapshotmiki - Good night Mother, I'm out also! Night Louis, Womguy, Necie!

 

 

(08:31 PM) Necie - if you go to bow shop...ask to cut carbon...not wood or aluminum...

 

 

(08:31 PM) Mother - I've made arrows in the past but find none of them are really a substitute for manufactured ones

 

 

(08:32 PM) WormGuy - nite Mik

 

 

(08:32 PM) Necie - the force of one of those things could shatter the bolt

 

 

(08:32 PM) snapshotmiki - Sorry, good night Ambergris

 

 

(08:32 PM) Necie - the force of one of those things could shatter the bolt

 

 

(08:32 PM) snapshotmiki - Sorry, good night Ambergris

 

 

(08:33 PM) Ambergris - night, snapshot

 

 

(08:33 PM) Louis1 - nite

 

 

(08:33 PM) Mother - Would love to stay and chat more and I hope this subject comes up again. Just too hard for me to stay here too long. Night all!

 

 

(08:34 PM) Necie - i wouldn't use wood or aluminum in any cmp bow

 

 

(08:34 PM) arby - night !

 

 

(08:34 PM) Louis1 - aluminum is fine, Necie

 

 

(08:34 PM) arby - Ive used aluminum arrows with a compound no problems

 

 

(08:34 PM) arby - at 80 yrds even. was just fine

 

 

(08:35 PM) Louis1 - carbon is lighter, will move faster, and are straighter ......

 

 

(08:35 PM) arby - hi Donit

 

 

(08:35 PM) arby - I imagine so.

 

 

(08:36 PM) Louis1 - hey, Donit

 

 

(08:36 PM) Necie - and is STRONGER...won't shatter

 

 

(08:36 PM) Ambergris - Hi, donit

 

 

(08:37 PM) Necie - i wouldn't want to be *near* anyone shooting wood outa one of those things. aluminum....i'd stand back

 

 

(08:37 PM) Louis1 - I've never seen an aluminum bolt shatter, seen them bend when shot into concrete, though

 

 

(08:38 PM) arby - yea Ive never even heard of aluminum shattering

 

 

(08:38 PM) arby - I would think the carbon ones might though

 

 

(08:38 PM) Louis1 - aluminum was all I ever shot with a cpd bow, carbon was still "new" when I stopped

 

 

(08:38 PM) Ambergris - The aluminum arrows we've gotten have bent up within a few weeks of use.

 

 

(08:40 PM) Necie - aging yourself again louis?

 

 

(08:40 PM) Louis1 - lol

 

 

(08:41 PM) Louis1 - ya'll scared Donit off .........

 

 

(08:41 PM) Necie - well, anywho...even as far as safety, with carbon being available and sooo much stronger...it is what i would want *stocked*

 

 

(08:42 PM) arby - try cabelas online Necie, they had plenty of carbon choices.

 

 

(08:43 PM) Ambergris - expensive, tho

 

 

(08:43 PM) Necie - don't have a bow...don't need arrows nephew shoots competition (dbf used to)

 

 

(08:43 PM) Louis1 - And now I'm heading out with the rest. Ya'll take care!

 

 

(08:44 PM) arby - yep.

 

 

(08:44 PM) arby - ok.

 

 

(08:44 PM) WormGuy - nite Louis

 

 

(10:40 PM) Stephanie - http://www.pickyourown.org/canningdriedbeans.htm

 

 

(10:40 PM) Stephanie - That's a good guide for the dried beans

 

 

(10:40 PM) snapshotmiki - Mom11 is sending me one. It should get here tomorrow or the next day. She is sending a Miki box-that is what she calls it

 

 

(10:41 PM) snapshotmiki - I will check out that site when I get off here. Thanks

 

 

(10:41 PM) Stephanie - awwww....how nice!

 

 

(10:41 PM) Stephanie - She seems like a very sweet person.

 

 

(10:43 PM) snapshotmiki - She always has so much going on in her life! We have emailed for over a year but I just spoke to her for the first time about a week ago.

 

 

(10:44 PM) Stephanie - that's really great

 

 

(10:44 PM) Stephanie - I've made so many great friends here at MrsS

 

 

(10:45 PM) snapshotmiki - I've been a member for quite a while but just started really posting this last year. Shy I guessLOL

 

 

 

 

 

(10:46 PM) snapshotmiki - Half of my posts are still pms I think

 

 

(10:47 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(10:47 PM) Stephanie - Wonder what the chat subject should be???

 

 

(10:47 PM) Stephanie - Something about firearms??

 

 

(10:48 PM) Stephanie - How about proper Ammunition storage??

 

 

(10:48 PM) Stephanie - Lots of people buying it...but wonder if they know how to properly store what they have bought??

 

 

(10:48 PM) snapshotmiki - You know, I felt really pushed to get that canner and sewing machine recently. I think our window is closing but I know how it ends too

 

 

(10:50 PM) snapshotmiki - I still don't have guns but am not sure in our situation if one would help. We aren't out in the country like I was as a child. Not sure--but I will stop in and learn anyway

 

 

(10:52 PM) Stephanie - hmmmmm....

 

 

(10:52 PM) snapshotmiki - Good night Steph! I'm going to go check out that bean site and head to bed.

 

 

(10:52 PM) Stephanie - well, I'll keep thinking about it

 

 

(10:52 PM) Stephanie - Good night!!

 

 

(10:52 PM) Stephanie - sleep tight!

 

 

(05:51 AM) Amishway Homesteaders - good morning all !

 

 

(05:51 AM) Amishway Homesteaders - first one in today?

 

 

(05:53 AM) Amishway Homesteaders - and we are off for the 'daytrip Train ride' hopeing to see lots of fall colored trees and great views of the finger lakes.

 

 

(09:21 AM) Stephanie - Hi you two!!! Hope the day trip is fantastic, it surely sounds nice!!

 

 

(09:21 AM) Stephanie - I just dropped by this morning to share a quote that I thought was really good.

 

 

(09:21 AM) Stephanie - "When I think of each of my children individually, I am especially fond of each one." from The Shack

 

 

(06:27 PM) Leah - I think the chat should be starting in an hour, if I figured the time correctly.

 

 

(06:43 PM) Ambergris - hello?

 

 

(07:19 PM) Stephanie - I'm early!!!! Hey Ambergris!!

 

 

(07:20 PM) Ambergris - hey

 

 

(07:21 PM) arby - hello there!

 

 

(07:21 PM) Ambergris - I'm listening to cases, so if I disappear it means someone said something importnat

 

 

(07:21 PM) Ambergris - hey Arby

 

 

(07:21 PM) Stephanie - And there's Arby!!!

 

 

(07:21 PM) Ambergris - brb

 

 

(07:21 PM) Stephanie - okay Ambergris

 

 

(07:22 PM) arby -

 

 

(07:22 PM) Ambergris - back

 

 

(07:24 PM) arby - our region is getting ready for the swine flu. Stay at home policy if sick but if people keep getting it, they will quarantine whole towns I think, from what I have gathered.

 

 

(07:24 PM) arby - Glad I have food!

 

 

(07:25 PM) Ambergris - My dh and I had the mild version

 

 

(07:25 PM) arby - setting up places too to isolate persons I guess. Probably the old jail here would serve the purpose.....if it came to that.

 

 

(07:26 PM) arby - ah, well thats good!

 

 

(07:26 PM) arby - if I get sick with it I hope its mild!

 

 

(07:26 PM) Ambergris - I was miserable, but not flu-miserable

 

 

(07:27 PM) arby - yeah, I bet

 

 

(07:27 PM) Ambergris - Got in trouble at work, of course

 

 

(07:27 PM) Ambergris - Stephanie?

 

 

(07:27 PM) Stephanie - here I am

 

 

(07:27 PM) Stephanie - went to fill up coffee mug

 

 

(07:27 PM) Ambergris - ah

 

 

(07:28 PM) Ambergris - DH is fetching tea for me.

 

 

(07:28 PM) arby - sounds good. I had some extra coffee this afternoon.

 

 

(07:28 PM) arby - awwww, thats sweet

 

 

(07:28 PM) Ambergris - He is

 

 

(07:29 PM) Stephanie - the kids SUDDENLY all need me

 

 

(07:29 PM) Stephanie - amazing!

 

 

(07:29 PM) arby -

 

 

(07:29 PM) arby - lol.

 

 

(07:29 PM) arby - I am so glad the storm moved north of tenn last night Steph.

 

 

(07:29 PM) Ambergris - like when they were toddlers, and you had the gall to want a bath

 

 

(07:30 PM) arby - hello Mother!

 

 

(07:30 PM) Mother - Hello Arby and everyone

 

 

(07:32 PM) OldMaineBear - Bear present and accounted for!!

 

 

(07:32 PM) arby - Heyyyyyyy, OMB!

 

 

(07:32 PM) arby - Hello Necie

 

 

(07:32 PM) Mother - Hello OMB, nice to have you here tonight. How are you doing?

 

 

(07:32 PM) OldMaineBear - Cough Cough Hack Hack AhhhChhooooo

 

 

(07:32 PM) Ambergris - backi

 

 

(07:32 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(07:33 PM) Mother - Hello Necie

 

 

(07:33 PM) Ambergris - hey, Mother and OMB

 

 

(07:33 PM) Ambergris - Hi, Necie

 

 

(07:33 PM) arby - oh dear, OMB, not feeling well ?

 

 

(07:33 PM) Stephanie - now...where is Louis??

 

 

(07:33 PM) Ambergris - Hi, Louis

 

 

(07:33 PM) Mother - oh no, not the dreaded FLU?

 

 

(07:33 PM) arby - hi Louis

 

 

(07:33 PM) Louis1 - hey

 

 

(07:33 PM) OldMaineBear - Bad cold.

 

 

(07:33 PM) Stephanie - (((OMB)))

 

 

(07:33 PM) Ambergris - I thought I'd chased you out

 

 

(07:33 PM) OldMaineBear - Louis!!

 

 

(07:34 PM) Stephanie - Howdy Louis! The Chief Chat Dude has arrived.

 

 

(07:34 PM) Louis1 - crowd here!

 

 

(07:34 PM) Mother - OMB, did you sanitize your keyboard?

 

 

(07:34 PM) Stephanie - The crowd looks great!

 

 

(07:34 PM) Necie - howdy all

 

 

(07:34 PM) Louis1 - How are you, OMB

 

 

(07:35 PM) OldMaineBear - Dosed it with Norton and I'm gargling McAfee

 

 

(07:35 PM) Stephanie - ((((Necie))) Good to see you friend!!

 

 

(07:35 PM) Necie - rushed home from work...good thing it was not busy tonight or i'd have been rushing much sloooower

 

 

(07:35 PM) Ambergris - Good

 

 

(07:35 PM) Mother - Well that's good and maybe the rest of us won't catch it then LOL

 

 

(07:35 PM) Stephanie - How is Kagan Necie?

 

 

(07:36 PM) OldMaineBear -

 

 

(07:36 PM) Necie - little bugger chewed through his tether cable....

 

 

(07:36 PM) Necie - so he spent the day in the pen with E-Z the buck LOL

 

 

(07:37 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(07:37 PM) Louis1 - Hi, John

 

 

(07:37 PM) Stephanie - And there's JOHN!!! and MIK!!

 

 

(07:37 PM) Louis1 - and Mik

 

 

(07:37 PM) Stephanie - Great group!

 

 

(07:37 PM) arby - Heyyyyyyy Wormguy!

 

 

(07:37 PM) WormGuy - hey Louis and everyone else

 

 

(07:38 PM) arby - hi Miki!

 

 

(07:38 PM) OldMaineBear - Hiya Wormy

 

 

(07:38 PM) snapshotmiki - I'm just here to learn tonight. I'll be good and I'll be quiet! Promise

 

 

(07:38 PM) Ambergris - hi, Wormguy!

 

 

(07:38 PM) Necie - howdy wormie and miki

 

 

 

 

 

(07:38 PM) Ambergris - hi, Snapshot miki

 

 

(07:38 PM) Louis1 - Steph's topic?

 

 

(07:38 PM) WormGuy - hey Arby

 

 

(07:38 PM) WormGuy - hey Bear

 

 

(07:38 PM) Louis1 - what was it?

 

 

(07:38 PM) OldMaineBear - I haven't been around much lately. Missed the shoutbox.

 

 

(07:38 PM) snapshotmiki - Hi Arby and Louis and Wormguy . Where is Steph?

 

 

(07:39 PM) Stephanie - HERE I BE!!

 

 

(07:39 PM) Louis1 - she's here

 

 

(07:39 PM) snapshotmiki - Hi Necie and OMB!

 

 

(07:39 PM) arby - shes back and forth. the kids I htink

 

 

(07:39 PM) OldMaineBear - Ammunition I think Louis

 

 

(07:39 PM) arby - think

 

 

(07:39 PM) Louis1 - How could you miss that accent?

 

 

(07:39 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(07:39 PM) snapshotmiki - Hi Ambergris. Didn't mean to miss you there

 

 

(07:39 PM) Stephanie - AMMUNITION

 

 

(07:40 PM) arby - tomorrow should be good for fall pics, miki, the colors really starting to come on now.

 

 

(07:40 PM) Ambergris - I'm in and out, really

 

 

(07:40 PM) arby - mostly sunny. nice

 

 

(07:40 PM) Stephanie - shortages, proper storage, differences in brands, etc...

 

 

(07:40 PM) Louis1 - zombie repellent

 

 

(07:40 PM) snapshotmiki - I bet you will get some great ones! That's a lot of megapixels

 

 

(07:40 PM) WormGuy - lol

 

 

 

 

 

(07:41 PM) Louis1 - Good thing you brought in a Bearish expert, eh?

 

 

(07:41 PM) arby - yes!

 

 

(07:41 PM) arby - ok, ammo

 

 

(07:41 PM) Stephanie - I'd like to pose a TOPIC related question, if I may ( yes...I did a special OMB invite)

 

 

(07:41 PM) Stephanie - I want to know opinions about buying ammo from individuals

 

 

(07:42 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(07:42 PM) WormGuy - your out of order Stepjanie

 

 

(07:42 PM) Stephanie - Lots' of people are selling as money gets tight

 

 

(07:42 PM) OldMaineBear - Pre-obama the ammunition sales in America was around 7 Billion rounds per year. After-obama it jumped to 9 Billion rounds.

 

 

(07:42 PM) Stephanie - oh no...here goes the procedures again

 

 

(07:42 PM) Stephanie - Wow, that's amazing OMB

 

 

(07:42 PM) Louis1 - As long as it's good stuff, go for it?

 

 

(07:43 PM) OldMaineBear - If they are selling factory loads, go for it. Watch for reloads. Not everybody is a good reloader. You don't know what your getting.

 

 

(07:43 PM) Louis1 - I don' unnerstand the question ............. surprise?

 

 

(07:43 PM) WormGuy - I have no problem buying from anyone as long as it is factory

 

 

(07:43 PM) Stephanie - But, that is the question...how do I know that they have stored it and handled it properly?

 

 

(07:43 PM) Louis1 - I wouldn't buy reloads from anyone

 

 

(07:43 PM) Mother - How does one tell if the ammo is good or not?

 

 

 

 

 

(07:43 PM) Louis1 - If I didn't know them very, very well

 

 

(07:44 PM) Mother - and is it possible to tell reloads easily?

 

 

(07:44 PM) OldMaineBear - I take reloads from folks, but I break them down and salvage bullets and brass.

 

 

(07:44 PM) WormGuy - I've shot reloads that go fizzzzzzzz, dribble

 

 

(07:45 PM) OldMaineBear - Reloads generally show sizer die markings on the case.

 

 

(07:45 PM) WormGuy - I don't mess with them so I don't know

 

 

(07:45 PM) OldMaineBear - Look at the base for an expansion ring too. Hard to hide thet.

 

 

(07:45 PM) Louis1 - As far as individuals, I'd make sure it was original, factory ammo in original packaging

 

 

(07:46 PM) Louis1 - Or surplus, which I've bought from individuals too, but then you have to determine if it is good or not ..

 

 

(07:46 PM) Stephanie - Would it make a huge difference if they had stored it improperly?? Like in a humid environment?

 

 

(07:46 PM) Louis1 - Wouldn't buy anything if was loose, unpackaged rounds, just to be safe

 

 

(07:47 PM) Louis1 - Not unless the stuff was visibly corroded, IMO

 

 

(07:47 PM) OldMaineBear - Absolutely. Humidity will make the brass turn green. It will look like it has spots. Extreme cases it could ruin the powder.

 

 

(07:48 PM) Louis1 - But you will be able to see the corrosion easily

 

 

(07:48 PM) Stephanie - So visibly corroded would look like the brass turned greenish or spotted?

 

 

(07:48 PM) WormGuy - yes it would

 

 

 

 

 

(07:48 PM) OldMaineBear - That green is corrosion and that indicates a weakening at that spot. 95% of the time you can clean them up. That 5% can be deadly.

 

 

(07:49 PM) OldMaineBear - Remember you are basically igniting the surface of the sun with the heat and pressure, just a few inches from your face.

 

 

(07:49 PM) Stephanie - Well, then....what about proper storage?? I've been concerned about that.

 

 

(07:50 PM) Louis1 - It's not always green, either, could be an ugly whitish look

 

 

(07:50 PM) OldMaineBear - You want to make sure the case is sound.

 

 

(07:50 PM) Stephanie - I have tried to stock up a bit, and now I want to be sure it stays in good condition

 

 

(07:50 PM) Louis1 - Storage for how long?

 

 

(07:50 PM) OldMaineBear - Cool dry place is best. Get some Military ammo cans. They have a seal to keep out moisture.

 

 

(07:51 PM) Louis1 - Normally, keeping it in a fairly dry place is gonna be good enough for several years

 

 

(07:51 PM) Stephanie - What about the boxes that come with some of the Cabelo's orders?

 

 

(07:51 PM) Louis1 - A lot of us shoot surplus that is 50 years old and older

 

 

(07:51 PM) Louis1 - those plastic ones?

 

 

(07:52 PM) OldMaineBear - Friend of mine in Iowa had his house flood two years ago and his ammo cans were submerged. Opened them up and nice and dry.

 

 

(07:52 PM) Louis1 - They are ok, but I don't think they have a seal, I can check

 

 

(07:52 PM) Stephanie - That's like the giant green 'sardine' can that I got from Classic Arms?

 

 

(07:52 PM) OldMaineBear - Thos Dry Boxes are great too. They have a seal too.

 

 

(07:52 PM) Louis1 - No, not that

 

 

(07:53 PM) Louis1 - not the sardine can, it can't be closed

 

 

(07:53 PM) OldMaineBear - Not the sardine cans. I'm talking about the US Military cans with the flip seals.

 

 

(07:53 PM) Stephanie - Where can you get those?

 

 

(07:53 PM) Louis1 - http://www.petenelson.com/Photos/Misc/Guns/Ammo%20cans.jpg

 

 

(07:53 PM) Louis1 - http://www.petenelson.com/Photos/Misc/Guns/Ammo%20cans.jpg

 

 

(07:54 PM) WormGuy - I have one from Cabela's and it has a seal you have tp put on. Not the best but better than nothing

 

 

(07:54 PM) Louis1 - Local army surplus store usually, 10 bucks or so these days

 

 

(07:55 PM) Louis1 - http://www.armysurplusworld.com/display.as...epartmentID=118

 

 

(07:55 PM) Stephanie - okay, tyvm, I'll put those on my never ending list

 

 

(07:55 PM) OldMaineBear - https://www.mainemilitary.com/productcart/p...;idproduct=1098

 

 

(07:55 PM) Stephanie - Are the sardine can types okay for long term storage??

 

 

(07:55 PM) Louis1 - I like the .50 cal size best

 

 

(07:55 PM) OldMaineBear - Shop around for best prices.

 

 

(07:55 PM) Louis1 - Yeah, the sardines are good for a few decades

 

 

(07:55 PM) OldMaineBear - AS long as they aren't opened.

 

 

(07:56 PM) Louis1 - But you aren't going t find many common American calibers in those these days

 

 

(07:56 PM) Stephanie - ok, thanks

 

 

(07:57 PM) Louis1 - "Stephanie is once again monopolizing the conversation)

 

 

(07:57 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(07:57 PM) Stephanie -

 

 

(07:58 PM) OldMaineBear - Someone has to ask all the questions. She's not shy.

 

 

(07:58 PM) OldMaineBear - Louis I just bought a Thompson Center Encore in 405 Winchester.

 

 

(07:58 PM) Necie - to louis!!!!!!!!!! hush man! i could listen to stephanie drawl and LAAAUGH all day!

 

 

(07:58 PM) Stephanie - Now you hurt me feelings and I'm going to pout...

 

 

(07:58 PM) Louis1 - .................... ................

 

 

(07:59 PM) Stephanie - Thanks Necie, good use of that ammunition...errrmmmm skillet!

 

 

(07:59 PM) Ambergris -

 

 

(07:59 PM) Louis1 - I've never even seen a .405?

 

 

(07:59 PM) Louis1 - big game?

 

 

(08:00 PM) OldMaineBear - Old caliber used by Teddy Roosevelt in a Winchester 95.

 

 

(08:00 PM) OldMaineBear - Moose

 

 

(08:01 PM) Louis1 - Well, now that some ammo is reasonable priced again, what are the common calibers used by the people here, handgun - wise?

 

 

(08:01 PM) Louis1 - I know Arby uses the clothyard shaft variety!

 

 

(08:02 PM) Mother - Just 22 long and short here

 

 

(08:02 PM) Ambergris - We no longer have handguns.

 

 

(08:03 PM) Stephanie - 9mm and 22 LR and magnum for us in handguns

 

 

(08:04 PM) arby - lol

 

 

(08:04 PM) OldMaineBear - Louis, you'll have to hold the fort. I'm coughing too much. Got to lie down.

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 - Our local walmart is starting to have decent stock of all the common calibers again

 

 

(08:04 PM) Ambergris - Hot lemonade, OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) WormGuy - .45, .380, 9mm

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 - Take care, OMB.

 

 

(08:04 PM) OldMaineBear - Imagine that, an Indian telling a white guy to hold the fort!!

 

 

(08:04 PM) WormGuy - get better OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Necie - awwww... feel better OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Mother - get well OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(08:05 PM) Mother -

 

 

(08:04 PM) Necie - awwww... feel better OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Mother - get well OMB

 

 

(08:04 PM) Louis1 -

 

 

(08:05 PM) Mother -

 

 

(08:05 PM) WormGuy - same here at ours Louis

 

 

(08:05 PM) Stephanie - Byee OMB!! Feel Better!!

 

 

(08:05 PM) Louis1 - Hey, us Irish were painting our faces before youse guys!

 

 

(08:06 PM) Louis1 - I guess they are finally catching up on those unanticipated 2 billion rounds!

 

 

(08:07 PM) Louis1 - hey, ol'momma

 

 

(08:07 PM) Stephanie - Hi ol'momma!!

 

 

(08:07 PM) ol'momma - HI Everybody!!

 

 

(08:07 PM) WormGuy - prices are coming down but they need to drop more for me

 

 

(08:08 PM) arby - hi ol momma!

 

 

(08:08 PM) WormGuy - hi ol'momma

 

 

(08:08 PM) arby -

 

 

(08:08 PM) Louis1 - stephanie, you might like this price http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/7_62x39.html

 

 

(08:08 PM) ol'momma - Was at Big R today and noticed that they seem to have more in stock

 

 

(08:08 PM) Mother - Perhaps this isn't the subject but what about other ammo, like bolts and arrows.

 

 

(08:09 PM) Stephanie - Wow, that is a good price Louis, about $50 less than I paid a few months ago, thanks.

 

 

(08:09 PM) Mother - We have a nice cross bow pistol but can't seem to find reasonably priced bolts for it. They ARE called that aren't they?

 

 

(08:09 PM) WormGuy - I'm clueless Mother

 

 

(08:09 PM) Louis1 - I have lots of aluminum arrows, but no bow to shoot them with anymore

 

 

(08:09 PM) Stephanie - I think that's very much on subject Mother,

 

 

(08:10 PM) Louis1 - yes, they are.

 

 

(08:10 PM) Ambergris - I'm in the market for bolts (not the handgun size).

 

 

(08:10 PM) Louis1 - What size does it need, Mother? length?

 

 

(08:10 PM) Mother - We have a regular sized one too

 

Ambergris

 

 

(08:11 PM) Mother - 6? 8?? didn't know there was different sizes

 

 

(08:12 PM) Ambergris - My mind is not wrapping around numbers tonight. These bolts are armpit-to-wedding-ring long on me.

 

 

(08:12 PM) Louis1 - Maybe it doesn't, I don't know much about them, just know my father's shoots really straight!

 

 

(08:13 PM) Louis1 - where do you usually buy them?

 

 

(08:13 PM) Mother - We have quite a store of aluminum arrows as well and a nice recurve as well as an older long bow that shoots wonderfully yet but it's the small hand cross bow that needs bolts. We find the cheapo ones occassionally but those aren't great for much but target

 

 

(08:13 PM) Ambergris - I think these are about 18 inches?

 

 

(08:13 PM) Ambergris - Right. I want better bolts, but they charge $5.99 each here. I don't know if that's good or not

 

 

(08:14 PM) Mother - they are very short actually. possibly nine inches. Good ones will wing right through a critter

 

 

(08:14 PM) Mother - I'm not strong enough to use our regulation sized cross bow

 

 

(08:14 PM) arby - 6 inch bolts Dickssportinggoods.com

 

 

(08:14 PM) arby - 20 inch bolts also there.

 

 

(08:15 PM) arby - thats a standard price Ambergris

 

 

(08:15 PM) Mother - Thanks Arby we have one about forty five minutes from us, I'll have to look

 

 

 

 

 

(08:16 PM) Louis1 - 5-6 dollars is probably about as good as you'll find

 

 

(08:16 PM) arby - it would be easy enough to make bolts, you can even use duct tape for the feathers, cut can lids into arrow heads with tin snips....

 

 

(08:17 PM) arby - could manage extra arrows too that way

 

 

(08:17 PM) Louis1 - Mother, I did a quick search and found these 6" ones. Looks like a UK outfit. I think lots of people across the pond keep small crossbows

 

 

(08:17 PM) arby - dowels.

 

 

(08:17 PM) Louis1 - http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shop/ar...ing-350287.html

 

 

(08:17 PM) Mother - We've tried that arby. They just aren't as affective nor as accurate.

 

 

 

 

 

(08:18 PM) Louis1 - One could probably buy full size arrows and have them cut down to length cheaper than buying bolts

 

 

(08:18 PM) arby - ok, thanks for the info.

 

 

(08:18 PM) Mother - Good find Louis, thanks

 

 

(08:18 PM) Louis1 - Actually, most bow shops, you pick the size (diameter) you want and then they cut to length for you.

 

 

(08:19 PM) Louis1 - That might be the least expensive way to go!

 

 

(08:19 PM) Mother - wonder if I can find these state side?

 

 

(08:19 PM) Ambergris - Regular arrows aren't designed for the power of a crossbow, though

 

 

(08:19 PM) Louis1 - Good arrows aren't sold / manufactured to length ahead of time these days

 

 

(08:20 PM) Ambergris - My arrows are about 30% narrower than my bolts, and are much more flexible

 

 

(08:20 PM) Mother - We used to have a guy who repaired bows just down the road and it was a lot more expensive to have them cut down but he used to make them for us. He's not here any longer. Actually,,,,he's in prison... groan....

 

 

(08:20 PM) arby - no short bolts in stock online right now at dicks.

 

 

(08:20 PM) Louis1 - I'd bet a decent archery shop could cut any length bolt to size for you, though

 

 

(08:21 PM) Mother - Ambergris is right, even though our small cross bow is a cheaper one, that thing really belts out a bolt

 

 

(08:21 PM) Louis1 - Amber, do you think it would matter for an aluminum shafted arrow?

 

 

(08:21 PM) WormGuy - does anyone have a problem with me posting this chat?

 

 

(08:22 PM) Ambergris - I don'tknow. We have wood, aluminum, carbon, and fiberglas arrows, but only one material for the bolts

 

 

(08:22 PM) Louis1 - I mean, modern cpd bows and crossbows aren't that different in speed ........

 

 

(08:22 PM) ol'momma - not me wormy...I'm just fallowing along.

 

 

(08:23 PM) Ambergris - My crossbow is 165 lbs. My other bows are about 45 lbs.

 

 

(08:23 PM) Louis1 - I prolly have 4-5 dozen arrows, all good ones, but no bow, lol

 

 

(08:23 PM) ol'momma - I've said nothing that anyone can blackmail me with later...

 

 

(08:24 PM) Ambergris - Why don't you get a bow?

 

 

(08:24 PM) WormGuy - not yet anyway

 

 

(08:24 PM) Louis1 - How fast does the crossbow move them?

 

 

(08:24 PM) Louis1 - Oh, I sold or traded mine off when I quit bow hunting

 

 

(08:24 PM) Ambergris - I don't know.

 

 

(08:25 PM) ol'momma - True nuff.

 

 

(08:25 PM) Ambergris - But they arrive with shattering force, compared to the arrows.

 

 

(08:25 PM) Mother - Our regular cross bow is 150 lbs I believe but I have no idea what the pistol one is. Nor my older bows

 

 

 

 

 

(08:25 PM) Louis1 - (and the perpetual shoulder pain had a little to do with that, lol)

 

 

(08:26 PM) Ambergris - My dh's shoulder has something to do with the reduction in archery supplies around here too

 

 

(08:26 PM) Louis1 - I'm guessing, but a 150 lbs draw on a crossbow is prolly around = to 80 or so with a cpd bow.

 

 

(08:26 PM) Stephanie - We have bought several compound bows used (at yard sales) and need to have them checked out.

 

 

(08:26 PM) Ambergris - That and someone's inadvertant shattering of his left-handed Bear.

 

 

(08:26 PM) Mother - I only know that I can use the bows easier than I can the guns. I'm even a better shot with the sling shot than I am with a gun but then that's what I learned on as a kid.

 

 

(08:27 PM) arby - actually they are fairly similar in fps speed .....

 

 

(08:27 PM) Stephanie - That's exactly what my dh has Ambergris

 

 

(08:27 PM) ol'momma - I'm gonna depart . Nice seeing you all for a change!!Hugs all around.

 

 

(08:28 PM) Mother - We have a compound too but I've never been able to use either that or the big cross bow, can't even begin too.

 

 

(08:28 PM) Ambergris - night, olmomma

 

 

(08:28 PM) Mother - Night ol'momma

 

 

(08:28 PM) Stephanie - Well, y'all enjoy!! I promised Henry I would only be an hour!

 

 

(08:28 PM) Louis1 - I learned on a 50# recurve ....................... cpd bows are much easier

 

 

(08:28 PM) Stephanie - I'll walk out with you Ol'm

 

 

(08:28 PM) arby - bye ladies!

 

 

(08:28 PM) Ambergris - night, Stephanie

 

 

(08:28 PM) WormGuy - nite ol'momma

 

 

(08:28 PM) Louis1 - nite ol'

 

 

(08:29 PM) WormGuy - nite Stephanie

 

 

(08:29 PM) Louis1 - and Steph

 

 

(08:29 PM) Stephanie - I enjoyed it very much and hope we do it again!!

 

 

(08:29 PM) Necie - mother...did you say you tried to use dowel in the pistol cross bow?

 

 

(08:29 PM) snapshotmiki - Night Steph, olm and Arby

 

 

(08:30 PM) Mother - I best walk out with them for safety sakes too LOL Night all

 

 

 

 

 

(08:30 PM) Ambergris - Night, Mother

 

 

(08:30 PM) WormGuy - nite Mother

 

 

(08:30 PM) Mother - sorry necie, Yeah, we did try them with the pistol cross bow and they aren't very accurate

 

 

(08:31 PM) Necie - be careful....

 

 

(08:31 PM) snapshotmiki - Good night Mother, I'm out also! Night Louis, Womguy, Necie!

 

 

(08:31 PM) Necie - if you go to bow shop...ask to cut carbon...not wood or aluminum...

 

 

(08:31 PM) Mother - I've made arrows in the past but find none of them are really a substitute for manufactured ones

 

 

(08:32 PM) WormGuy - nite Mik

 

 

(08:32 PM) Necie - the force of one of those things could shatter the bolt

 

 

(08:32 PM) snapshotmiki - Sorry, good night Ambergris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(08:33 PM) Ambergris - night, snapshot

 

 

(08:33 PM) Louis1 - nite

 

 

(08:33 PM) Mother - Would love to stay and chat more and I hope this subject comes up again. Just too hard for me to stay here too long. Night all!

 

 

 

 

 

(08:34 PM) Necie - i wouldn't use wood or aluminum in any cmp bow

 

 

 

 

 

(08:34 PM) arby - night !

 

 

(08:34 PM) Louis1 - aluminum is fine, Necie

 

 

(08:34 PM) arby - Ive used aluminum arrows with a compound no problems

 

 

(08:34 PM) arby - at 80 yrds even. was just fine

 

 

(08:35 PM) Louis1 - carbon is lighter, will move faster, and are straighter ......

 

 

(08:35 PM) arby - hi Donit

 

 

(08:35 PM) arby - I imagine so.

 

 

(08:36 PM) Louis1 - hey, Donit

 

 

(08:36 PM) Necie - and is STRONGER...won't shatter

 

 

 

 

 

 

(08:36 PM) Ambergris - Hi, donit

 

 

(08:37 PM) Necie - i wouldn't want to be *near* anyone shooting wood outa one of those things. aluminum....i'd stand back

 

 

(08:37 PM) Louis1 - I've never seen an aluminum bolt shatter, seen them bend when shot into concrete, though

 

 

(08:38 PM) arby - yea Ive never even heard of aluminum shattering

 

 

(08:38 PM) arby - I would think the carbon ones might though

 

 

(08:38 PM) Louis1 - aluminum was all I ever shot with a cpd bow, carbon was still "new" when I stopped

 

 

(08:38 PM) Ambergris - The aluminum arrows we've gotten have bent up within a few weeks of use.

 

 

(08:40 PM) Necie - aging yourself again louis?

 

 

(08:40 PM) Louis1 - lol

 

 

(08:41 PM) Louis1 - ya'll scared Donit off .........

 

 

(08:41 PM) Necie - well, anywho...even as far as safety, with carbon being available and sooo much stronger...it is what i would want *stocked*

 

 

(08:42 PM) arby - try cabelas online Necie, they had plenty of carbon choices.

 

 

(08:43 PM) Ambergris - expensive, tho

 

 

(08:43 PM) Necie - don't have a bow...don't need arrows nephew shoots competition (dbf used to)

 

 

(08:43 PM) Louis1 - And now I'm heading out with the rest. Ya'll take care!

 

 

(08:44 PM) arby - yep.

 

 

(08:44 PM) arby - ok.

 

 

(08:44 PM) WormGuy - nite Louis

 

 

(08:45 PM) Necie - the arrows he uses now are about $170/dz...(sponsor supplied )

 

 

(08:45 PM) arby - Wormguy did you have a lot of rain this week?

 

 

(08:45 PM) Necie - night louis

 

 

(08:46 PM) arby - yeah.

 

 

(08:46 PM) arby - too much for my wallet!

 

 

(08:46 PM) WormGuy - Looks like we are done, so I'll try to post this

 

 

 

 

:wormie2:

John

 

 

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