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I made 10 lbs of meatballs tonight for dinner and to freeze. I hate mixing it with my hands so I wear nitrile gloves. I was trying to be as careful as I possibly could taking them off to see how hard it would be to take off contaminated gloves. I couldn't do it. I made three different batches and very time I tried, I wound up with little particles on me. It made me think that if i can't get them off without contaminating myself with something I can visibly SEE, how is anyone so darn sure they can take theirs off without contaminating themselves with microscopic particles? I know, it's only meatball mix, but still... lol... makes me wonder.

It appears that common sense isn't all that common these days. How can someone come back from an area ravaged with disease and not willingly quarantine themselves?

The tent is in and indoor facility, not outside.

I'm not panicking yet, but I tend to look to the "what-if". What if Ebola does get entrenched here? What if medical services are overwhelmed? The gov't is clueless and thinking about THAT is enough to send me to the edge of panicking. We cannot count on the gov't to keep our nation safe.

A health care worker that handled the blood of the first ebola guy is on a Carnival cruise ship parked off shore of Belize. Belize officials will not allow the transfer of this woman via their shores into their airport to be airlifted out. There are over 4,000 passengers and crew on board. I've been to Belize and there is no dock. They anchor out in the ocean and you take a small ship called a Tender to the shore. Apparently they had this woman and her husband on the Tender ready to go to the Belize hospital but were told no. Belize does not want Ebola on their shores. The patient was returned to the ship and the ship is sailing back to the US. Belize TV is saying the patient is showing symptoms of Ebola, but the CDC says no symptoms. Which is it? Tell me, short of sinking it, how do you disinfect a huge cruise ship?

So much for "self quarantine". This is the second person that was self-monitoring, self-quarantined that went out in public. That one from NBC (Dr. Nancy something) went out to a deli to get some soup, this one flies half way across the country. How does TPTB expect to stop/slow down infections if they can't get doctors and nurses to follow orders?

Dallas Health Care Worker tests positive for Ebola. http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/12/health-care-worker-at-dallas-hospital-tests-positive-for-ebola/ Per hospital spokesperson this am: This HCW caught it AFTER Duncan had been admitted to the hospital on his second trip to the ER. HCW had been wearing PPE as prescribed by the CDC, mask/gown/gloves/shield. Tell me again how Ebola is not airborne.

I agree. They were saying on the news tonight that if there is a mass outbreak in Mexico, Honduras or Guatemala those people are going to storm the USA like nothing we have ever seen before looking for free healthcare. That ticks me off. I can't afford to take my kids to the doctor even with health insurance until I reach a $4000 deductible, and these people think they can come here and get top notch care for free.

I didn't speak with her. I thought about it, but I had my 9 yr old with me and I'd rather discuss it when she isn't around. I did find Sambucol at Kmart today. It was marked down to $2 each. They only had one bottle of syrup and one box of quick dissolve tablets.

I saw this lady at Walmart today. She is wearing a surgical mask which won't do much against flu or ebola. I honestly have no qualms about wearing my N95's out in public but at this point I'm not at the panic stage where I think it's necessary. I think my line in the sand will be anything in my state or one of my bordering states.

He did die!! http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/305795#.VDIHPdhF_xr.facebook ETA: This is apparently a rumor. Reuters, which is stated as being the source, doesn't confirm this at all and says the guy is still fighting for his life.

I don't think there is a better deal to be found on N95 masks then these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/KIMBERLY-CLARK-Tecnol-PFR95-N95-Yellow-Particulate-Filter-Respirator-masks-300-/181545491110?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a44f45aa6 I have these in a size small for my kids, fits perfectly for them and is comfortable to wear.

I found this info from Kimberly-Clarke to be very informative. http://www.kchealthcare.com/media/133353/k-c-ebola-precautions-brief-truscott-final.pdf

Where does it say he died? In the comments or the blog post?

I don't see why you can't use Everclear.

I found this on Ehow regarding alcohol and disinfection: >>In addition to damaging the integrity of cellular walls, rubbing alcohol also denatures proteins, meaning it can also be used to kill viruses on contact. Both viruses and bacteria are less stable when outside of the body or other biological host, meaning that germs on surfaces are far easier to kill than if they were in the body. Rubbing isopropyl alcohol on the skin or spraying it on hard surfaces can kill both bacteria and viruses on those surfaces. Read more : http://www.ehow.com/list_6362900_organisms-isopropyl-alcohol-kill_.html If it gets bad in my area I will wear a mask and gloves. I'd like to avoid going anywhere crowded though. I'm pretty good with stored foods that we could live on for a few months if we have to. This month has an extra payday in it so I'm going to use the next paycheck to get more shelf stable foods. If it comes to SIP our diet will change drastically. I have tons of rice, pasta, oats and wheat stored, but in the past year we have changed how we eat. We don't eat those things!! I didn't want to give them away because in a true SHTF scenario we will eat what have stored.

Good article. But.....she said twice that Ebola patient could be passing it on EVEN BEFORE THEY'RE SYMPTOMATIC. That's....reallllly, realllly, bad. Has anyone else heard this yet???? I'd like to verify cuz it's a severe deal-breaker! ============== WE2....glad you mentioned public restrooms. Not to be TMI but.....bluntly, this is a huge issue for anyone! With MS, I frequent restrooms whenever I leave my house. Sometimes I 'gotta go' every half hour! ......and those paper sheets are NOT GONNA BE ANY PROTECTION from this. I don't have the balance to "hover". Sheeeesh.....what other alternatives can we think of? Disposable gloves and Clorox wipes to clean the seat? Commercial toilets have aggressive flushing that will atomize droplets.....a thought we usually try not to think about. Wear the gloves until you open the door upon exiting? This virus staying alive for ...perhaps days....on inanimate surfaces? Mebbe I can wait and go behind a tree in the woods? ================= Everyone is talking about the cleanup of that TX apartment...and sidewalk. Power washing the sidewalk would definitely spread DROPLETS! Operator is wearing no protection. Washing down the sewer system..... They left the four relatives in with the patient's bedding, etc for days? ================= MtRider Me too. I take water pills and there are times when I will go every 20 mins. Maybe I will start wearing Depends lol... I took a pack of baby wipes and put them in a ziplock bag. I poured half a bottle of 90% rubbing alcohol in the bag and I will carry these with me everywhere I go. When I have to use the restroom I will open the door with them and wipe down everything I need to touch from door handles to faucets.

They let 261 people that were on that flight go home after 2 hours! What if the guy and his daughter DO have Ebola? There is no rapid Ebola test, there is no way for them to know if they are infected or not but they let the rest of the people on plane just walk away! Sheesh..

A Maryland hospital is also treating someone with "ebola-like" symptoms. http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26699234/maryland-ebola-symptoms On another note... my masks came today... all four boxes! :hapydancsmil:

I told DH that I bought him N99 masks to wear at work (in a hospital) and he said no way, that would be too embarrassing. So I said he could wear the tyvek suits with the masks and goggles and no one will even know it's him! lol.. he didn't think that was funny

Does anyone store colloidal silver? I used to have a bottle of drops years ago but can't find it. I want to buy more but I'm finding a wide variety to choose from on Amazon. PPM? Spray? Drops?

The entire continent of Africa needs to be sealed off to contain the spread. That will never happen, but nothing short of doing so will stop the spread.

He was out in public for four days while shedding the virus. What if he was in a Walmart bathroom and threw up in the toilet, wiped his mouth with his hands and then touched the bathroom door lock? Would someone touching that door right after him get it? What if he sat in RiteAid sweating with fever while waiting for his antibiotics? He was in contact with four children that went to Dallas public schools. What if they come down with it after exposing countless numbers of kids?

On another forum someone said the patient traveled from Liberia to the United States via Brussels and Dulles, VA, on to Dallas, TX.

Well over 6,000 have been infected and over 3,000 have died. This person was infectious and free to roam in public for FOUR days before being admitted. He went to a doctor and was given antibiotics and sent home. How many people did he come into contact with in those four days? What if he sneezed on a handrail? Threw up in a public bathroom? The ambulance that transported him was in use for 2 full days before being pulled out of service to be disinfected. Think of all the people you come in contact with within four days. He is visiting family. How many family members came into contact with him in those four days? I think the CDC and Freiden are just doing damage control and I don't think even THEY believe the words they are spewing. I can understand them not wanting the public to panic, but I think they are not telling the entire truth about how Ebola can spread inside the US.