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  1. I was raised Mennonite and among the Amish...so it is a way of life for me. I cannot remember a time we were not stocked up for at least a year on food. And since we were way out in the country, we stocked a lot of other things too since going to the store didn't happen very often. I have just carried on with that same way of life now that I am older and joy of joys, my children are now doing the same.
  2. was wondering if this way you dont have that aweful three week long itching too??? Q
  3. Mom, we use the turkey frier outside when it gets so hot and we dont want to heat up the house...it takes just a little practice to learn where to set the gas flow at, but then its just like doing it on the stove. One thing though...if your fire gets too hot, it will soot up your canner on the outside. Q
  4. OH Snowmom....I have that pic of my white elephant hanging up on my refridgerator!! DH got a hoot out of it. I think she is just adorable, but then I found these tell-tell footprints in the pudding last night Q
  5. 1. Of course I have one...wouldn't be without it and my Stocking up book. Q
  6. Now I am wondering just WHY nana of all people would want a still??? Q
  7. While that is all nice and fancy and such...all you need is an old pressure canner that doesnt work any more...you take the gauge off of the top...use copper fittings and put into that hole an elbow...now using a copper compression fitting...add on your worm ( thats your coil of copper tubing and YES it has to be all copper or you will poisin yourself or someone). You need to roll this into a coil with a straight part on top(about 3 feet long) and a short straight part on the bottom (about one foot long). That is going to go into your cooling barrel. Your pot has to sit higher than your worm, so when you put a fire under it...make sure it is raised up...now slant your coil downwards into some form of water container...ahem..I have seen one of these made from a cheap dollar store 55 gallon trash can (plastic)...At the bottom of the container you need to drill a hole to put the end of your copper tubing out through...now you need to put a silicone water proof seal around where you placed your coild through so your cooling water wont leak out....under this end of the tubing is where your alcohol will come out. Now you have a still and your tubing all set to make
  8. I will bring the roasted corn on the cob and tons of fresh butter to slather it in. Q
  9. Extended Human to Human H5N1 Trasmission in North Sumatra Recombinomics Commentary May 23, 2006 The case occurred in a 32-year-old man. He developed symptoms on 15 May and died on 22 May. The case is part of a family cluster in the Kubu Sembelang village, Karo District, of North Sumatra. His 10-year-old son died of H5N1 infection on 13 May. The father was closely involved in caring for his son, and this contact is considered a possible source of infection. Although the investigation is continuing, preliminary findings indicate that three of the confirmed cases spent the night of 29 April in a small room together with the initial case at a time when she was symptomatic and coughing frequently. These cases include the woman's two sons and a second brother, aged 25 years, who is the sole surviving case among infected members of this family. Other infected family members lived in adjacent homes. The above WHO description of the North Sumatra familial cluster suggests that H5N1 bird flu was transmitted human-to-human (H2H) through three generations. Most H2H of H5N1 has a 2-4 day incubation period, which explains the 5-10 day gap between the index case and other family members in the vast majority of clusters since 2004. The incubation range would explain all of the transmissions in the above Indonesian cluster. The index case developed symptoms on April 27 and was symptomatic and coughing on April 29 when she could have infected her two sons (19M and 18M) and one brother (25M) generating H2H.. Media reports indicated they developed symptoms at the beginning of May, consistent with a 2-4 day incubation period. Disease onset dates were not included in the earlier WHO update. The index case died May 4 so additional family members could have been infected at that time by the members who developed symptoms at the beginning of May. The new infections would extend the chain to H2H2H. Included would have be the nephew of the index case (10M) who died May 13. The nephew could have then infected his father (32M) who developed symptoms on May 15. This last infection would extend the chain to H2H2H2H. The above scenario requires no tortured logic or unusual incubation times. This is in marked contrast to WHO updates, which tried to explain clusters using common source and incubation times that fell outside of the 2-4 day period, which explains the extended chain above. One earlier example was in late December of 2004. It also involved a family gathering and the cases were linked to duck blood pudding. However, the index case developed symptoms one day after the meal, which requires an unusually short incubation time. His brother developed symptoms 17 days after the meal, requiring an unusually long incubation. The brother-in-law who was the third person to eat the pudding developed no symptoms or detectable antibody. A third brother who did not eat the pudding did develop antibodies. The epidemiological data clearly pointed away from the duck blood pudding as a source, yet WHO subsequently used the 17 day incubation period as an outside value for incubation times. The same logic was applied to another cluster that also involved duck blood pudding. The index case developed symptoms 5 days after the meal and his younger sister developed symptoms 10 days after the meal. The older sister who also had the pudding developed no symptoms or detectable antibody, but the grandfather who did not eat the pudding had antibodies and the nurse of the index case developed symptoms and was H5N1 positive. Another nurse also developed symptoms, but she tested negative. These two clusters and almost all familial clusters from Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, China, Turkey, Iraq, and Azerbaijan have the same 5-10 day gap and are readily explained using a 2-4 day incubation period coupled with transmission 2-6 days after symptoms. The H5N1 transmission chain of H2H2H2H is among the longest reported, and generates yet another signal indicating the H2H transmission within families is common and several recent clusters are uncommonly large and have uncommonly long H2H transmission chains. The H2H transmission placed the pandemic phase at four or higher over a year ago and the "proof" of H2H has been in the disease onset dates in the WHO updates since early 2004. ------------- This is written by Dr. Niman at recombinomics...he is a leading professional in AI. I have to pay attention to him more that I do WHO and CDC. He is very straight forward and he tells it like it is over at Fluwiki where he is a regular poster. There are so many conflicting reports coming out of that area and the natives are not at all trusting nor helpful to the WHO team. At this point, I am just holding my breath on this and like you Cat, I believe there has to be a good reason for us to let go so quickly of that Tamiflu stockpile....I don't think they are telling the entire story yet. Q
  10. Garlic and oregano. They go into almost everything I cook around here. Q
  11. since I hijacked this one lol Q
  12. LOL not when you know the maker very very well.
  13. Seven Indonesian Bird Flu Cases Linked to Patients (Update1) May 23 (Bloomberg) -- All seven people infected with bird flu in a cluster of Indonesian cases can be linked to other patients, according to disease trackers investigating possible human-to-human transmission of the H5N1 virus. A team of international experts has been unable to find animals that might have infected the people, the World Health Organization said in a statement today. In one case, a 10-year- old boy who caught the virus from his aunt may have passed it to his father, the first time officials have seen evidence of a three-person chain of infection, an agency spokeswoman said. Six of the seven people have died. Almost all of the 218 cases of H5N1 infections confirmed by the WHO since late 2003 can be traced to direct contact with sick or dead birds. Strong evidence of human-to-human transmission may prompt the global health agency to convene a panel of experts and consider raising the pandemic alert level, said Maria Cheng, an agency spokeswoman. ``Considering the evidence and the size of the cluster, it's a possibility,'' Cheng said in a telephone interview. ``It depends on what we're dealing with in Indonesia. It's an evolving situation.'' The 32-year-old father in the cluster of cases on the island of Sumatra was ``closely involved in caring for his son, and this contact is considered a possible source of infection,'' The WHO said in its statement. Three others, including the sole survivor in the group, spent a night in a ``small'' room with the boy's aunt, who later died and was buried before health officials could conduct tests for the H5N1 virus. `Directly Linked' ``All confirmed cases in the cluster can be directly linked to close and prolonged exposure to a patient during a phase of severe illness,'' the WHO said. While investigators have been unable to rule out human-to- human transmission in the Sumatran cluster, they continue to search for other explanations for how the infections arose, the WHO statement said. Health experts are concerned that if H5N1 gains the ability to spread easily among people, it may set off a lethal global outbreak of flu. While some flu pandemics are relatively mild, the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide. So far, studies of the Sumatran outbreak and genetic analyses of the virus don't indicate the virus has undergone major changes, Cheng said. Scientists at WHO-affiliated labs in the U.S. and Hong Kong found no evidence that the Indonesian strain of H5N1 has gained genes from pigs or humans that might change its power or spreading ability, WHO said. Mutations ``These viruses mutate all the time and it's difficult to know what the mutations mean,'' Cheng said. Health officials earlier found strong evidence of direct human-to-human spread of H5N1 in Thailand in 2004. Scientists reported in the Jan. 27, 2005, issue of the New England Journal of Medicine that the H5N1 virus probably spread from an 11-year- old girl in Thailand to her aunt and mother, killing the mother and daughter. People who had more casual contact with the girl didn't become infected. In the Sumatran cluster, close, direct contact with a severely ill person was also needed for spread, Cheng said. Preliminary findings from the investigation indicate that the woman who died, considered to be the initial case, was coughing frequently while the three others spent the night in the same room. One of the three, a second brother, is the sole survivor. The other two, her sons, died. ``It looks like the same behavior pattern'' of close contact and caretaking during illness with the bird flu virus, Cheng said. To raise the level of pandemic alert ``it would have to be transmissible from more casual contact.'' General Community The Indonesian Ministry of Health and international scientists are continuing their investigation to trace the origins of the infections, the WHO said in its statement. ``Priority is now being given to the search for additional cases of influenza-like illness in other family members, close contacts, and the general community,'' the WHO said. ``To date, the investigation has found no evidence of spread within the general community and no evidence that efficient human-to-human transmission has occurred.'' Source:http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aWESsJvt6CFE&refer=home
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