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What kind of wheat should I buy?

I read somewhere to buy 'seed wheat' which I'm guessing is way different then wheatberries.

 

And what about grinders? Is there a manual one that I can buy that would grind wheat, corn, and meat or is that a bad idea?

 

TIA!

 

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Wheat...

 

in my neck of the woods, seed wheat is coated with a green chemical to keep the seed from molding and helps in germination.

 

Seed wheat if coated is NOT edible.

 

you are looking for Wheat from a health food store, co-op, right off the farm, a grainry, or feed store for livestock.

 

If you choose to use livestock feed, then you are looking for RECLEANED WHEAT or R/C. this wheat has been 98% cleaned of chaff.

 

ok, as to the kind of wheat you want...

 

there are different kinds of wheat... Hard, Soft, and Durum Wheat.

 

Hard wheat is what you want for bread baking, it is high in gluten. Soft wheat is used for cakes and fine pastries, Durum is for pasta.

 

Hard Winter Wheat us usually Red. Red Wheat, but there is a Hard Winter White wheat which is far more expensive.

 

The Winter Red or White will make cake, cookies and pasta.. just not as tender or flaky as using Soft Summer or Durum.

 

Wheatberries are what the wheat grain is called.

 

You will need to purchase a grain grinder and a meat grinder. Two separate tools though they do look somewhat similar.

 

A meat grinder, though it does grind has blades that chop the meat or vegetables up. You have little round plates you can change much like making cookies from a press. This will allow you to chop or grind tomatoes and cucumbers and etc for making relish, or grinding meat up to make sausage or ground beef or turkey or chicken.

 

A Grain Grinder has stone burrs or metal burrs, the stone for grinding grain and metal for grinding oily seeds like peanuts. The burrs are disks, the stone looks like a pumis stone and you have two of those grinding together. The tighter you put them the finer the grain is ground. Though you usually need to make 2 to 3 passes through, tightening them each time. the metal burrs look more like a wrasp (nutmeg grinder) and have groves in them to grind peanuts into peanut butter or almond or ???. If you were to try to grind peanuts with the stone burrs the oil would fill the porous stone up with oil and what a nightmare to clean.

 

there is two ways these units are held in place. The first one is a clamp that you clamp to the table and the second one is one you actually bolt down to a table.

 

Most everyone gets a clamp on but quickly finds it not only tears up your table, it constantly has to be tightened, but it is a general pain in the neck! as you grind (especially wheat) it takes a certain amount of torque (builds muscles and saves you from paying a gym) to get going. This torque is what causes the unit to loosen, move, and be that pain in the neck.

 

the bolt down to a table is great because it will not move! of course the table may move before the unit moves! the problem with this is you really need a place to put it. Once bolted down you really don't want to move it.

 

If you have your husband build you a small table with meat grinder on one side and wheat grinder on the other you can go out to use it or bring it in to use it or ???

 

Usually you use a manual unit for meat grinding but they do have an electric one. A grain grinder can be all electric, all manual or able to do both. I have one that does both, it was $112 when I bought it because at the time I couldn't justify spending $350-600! while I like mine, I would have liked the more expensive ones better. *smile*

 

now... I am sure I haven't answered your question completely or perhaps I have created new ones...

 

ask away!

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Wow Westie! Good overview. That about covers it!

 

 

So I'll just add --- balloons Welcome to MrsS, girlmama! Seriously, if you have more questions, ask. Lotsa good helpful folks here.

 

Some recent AreYouReallyReady threads about wheat or grinders:

 

http://www.mrssurvival.com/forums/ubbthr...ge=2#Post201268

 

http://www.mrssurvival.com/forums/ubbthr...ge=2#Post199484

 

http://www.mrssurvival.com/forums/ubbthr...ge=4#Post195541

 

http://www.mrssurvival.com/forums/ubbthr...ge=4#Post196464

 

http://www.mrssurvival.com/forums/ubbthr...ge=5#Post194424

 

http://www.mrssurvival.com/forums/ubbthr...ge=7#Post188605

 

http://www.mrssurvival.com/forums/ubbthr...ge=7#Post188280

 

http://www.mrssurvival.com/forums/ubbthr...ge=7#Post187472

 

 

 

MtRider [sheeeeeesh...I only went back a few weeks! Lots of Wheat Talk lately.]]

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Thank you Westie and MtRider!

I had tried to do a search but didn't find any of the results that you did MtRider.

So much to learn.

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Grain Grinder

http://waltonfeed.com/self/grinder.html

 

http://waltonfeed.com/self/grinders.html

 

Meat Grinder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_grinder

 

 

(for me to look at later...Whole Grain Milling and Baking Links, related links but not necessarily to this topic.)

http://peaceandcarrots.homestead.com/Whole...akingLinks.html

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lol girlmama, I can't EVER get the search thingie to work for me...hardly ever. But I knew we'd just had a lot of discussion on it so I paged backwards a few times and recording them. curtsey

 

 

MtRider [don't ask me to find ancient stuff tho...lol I'd get lost in the back pages reading all those great posts...and forget what I was looking for! smile ]

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I have a Retsel grinder that I like. It has a top loading hopper of about a quart capacity that dribbles grain into a screw (which I turn with a long handle) that pushes the grain in between two grindstones. The flour falls down to the table or into a tray that I've put there to catch it. I've made biscuits from flour that I made from grinding some of my wheat.

 

I don't think that I'd ever use my grain grinder for meat. Meat clings and spoils in places that would be hard to wash well.

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Nearly everytime I go into a thrift store they have meat grinders real cheap. You cannot grind grain with a meat grinder and you cannot grind meat with a grain grinder. You need one of each.

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Okay after looking online at grinders I see that the meat ones are not at all like the wheat ones. Thanks for the tips and links.

 

I bought a 50 pound bag of wheat on Saturday. I'm still trying to find a grinder locally but will probably have to resort to ordering online due to the ruralness of my area.

 

Millie

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Question? (It may have been addressed, but I don't remember- could be a senior moment lol).

What is the ratio of wheat berries to flour? I have my first 50# of wheat, and am wondering how much flour that will make.

I'm also trying to decide on what grain grinder to buy.

Thanks everyone.

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1 pound of wheat berries makes 1 pound of flour.

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Thank you all!

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Hmmm, is this a dumb question? How many cups to a pound? I divided the figures on Mistylady's bucket.... 3.64 cups to a pound?

 

Does that sound right?

 

shrug that's a couple loaves of bread per pound?

 

 

MtRider [ Math is NOT my strong point.... ]

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Thanks for the bumps on these threads, Michelle. Someone was asking this question again.

 

 

MtRider

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