YYY Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hi Everybody, Before my computer went down a couple of weeks ago, I read several boards on which people talked about having trouble finding lemon juice. In most cases, some other reader replied that was probably because everybody was buying it for canning season. That got me to thinking. With all the droughts or other things that may happen, it might be a good idea to have extra bottles of lemon juice in the pantry. Does anyone know the shelf life of lemon juice? I found some at Dollar Tree and had enough to buy a couple of bottles. I froze one of them. Thanks in advance YYY Quote Link to post
Daylily Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I don't know the shelf life but I keep extra bottles for months. I've never had it go bad. Quote Link to post
CrabGrassAcres Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 It will get old and brownish then taste odd. I haven't tried freezing it. For canning I keep powdered ascorbic acid. It is good for yrs if kept sealed. I get it bulk and take a little out to put in a small container so I'm not opening the large one frequently. Quote Link to post
Violet Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 You want citric acid in place of bottled lemon juice for canning. Ascorbic acid is good to have, too, but won't keep botulism at bay in canning. It will only keep things from turning brown. You can get citric acid crystals at most wine making shops. Quote Link to post
The WE2's Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) I've used both, citric acid and lemon juice (and once even used lemon-lime soda pop). I've had lemon juice in my frig for a long time (longer than I'd like to admit) and it's stayed just fine. The large ones in my pantry haven't been opened. I plan to pour some into ice cube trays to freeze...just for fun. When I dehydrate lemons I save the ends, freeze them, and then use them as "ice cubes" for citrus water. The friends around here probably have tons more experience than myself, but putting in my 2 cents worth! Edited October 10, 2012 by Philbe Quote Link to post
CrabGrassAcres Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 You want citric acid in place of bottled lemon juice for canning. Ascorbic acid is good to have, too, but won't keep botulism at bay in canning. It will only keep things from turning brown. You can get citric acid crystals at most wine making shops. Being of a curious nature, I would like to know the reason you cannot use ascorbic acid to prevent botulism. All I can find is the usual "don't use it" but nobody gives a reason. Quote Link to post
Bay Mare Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I just bought two large bottles at Sam's and the expiration date is July 2013. So as long as everything looked and smelled ok - I would think at least a year after that. Quote Link to post
Violet Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 From Elizabeth Andress, who wrote the USDA guides and works at the Univ. of Georgia : From: Elizabeth Andress "Why can't we substitute ascorbic acid (vitamin C) for citric acid (sour salt) or lemon juice for acidifying canned goods? And if it is possible, what is the substitution rate?" The quick answer is that it cannot be substituted because there are no established levels to provide the proper pH control in the canned foods where we have it required to assure safe boiling water processing instead of pressure processing. Ascorbic acid is not as efficient of an acidifier for the needed purposes (decreasing the pH of the food tissue). It is more expensive (in pure form) and the economics would then be compounded by needing to use more. For acidifying tomatoes, for example, the researchers worked out citric acid, lemon juice and vinegar options, but did not determine an acidification amount for ascorbic acid. There is no general conversion factor; different amounts would have to be tested in the actual food to be acidified. Foods contain natural components that can cause buffering with different acids in solution, and thereby prevent desired pH changes until a threshold is reached. I was not in the profession when the tomato acidification studies were done, but there could have also been some decision-making related to the fact that pure ascorbic acid was not very available to consumers so it was not considered. Three acidulants that were known to be effective food acidifiers and available to consumers were used. It is my understanding, however, that the reasoning has mostly to do with the fact that it is (and was) known that ascorbic acid is not known to be an effective acidifier in the foods being studied, fairly large amounts would be needed and there is a substantial cost difference compared to the chosen compounds. Citric acid is by far the most preferred and commonly used acidulant in the food processing and food canning industry. (And on the other hand, for many foods, ascorbic acid is a more effective anti-darkening agent than citric acid.) Elizabeth Elizabeth L. Andress, Ph.D. Project Director, National Center for HFP Professor and Extension Food Safety Specialist Department of Foods and Nutrition The University of Georgia 208 Hoke Smith Annex Athens, GA 30602-4356 Phone: (706) 542-3773 FAX: (706) 542-1979 Quote Link to post
CrabGrassAcres Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Thanks. I only pressure can so don't do any of the water bath needing the citric acid. I just like to know the reason behind directions. Quote Link to post
TurtleMama Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Violet, wierd question....can you use white vinegar in place of lemon juice for canning? Vinegar won't go bad like lemon juice will....but I am wondering if it would be a suitable substitute, or if it would just change the flavor too much (or not meet the requirements for acidity). Quote Link to post
Violet Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 If you are pressure canning tomatoes, you still need the bottled lemon juice or citric acid added to them. No, you cannot substitute vinegar when bottled lemon juice or citric acid is called for. The vinegar is only half as acidic as the others. The vinegar is acetic acid, not citric acid. Quote Link to post
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