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24 minutes ago, Guest Joyfilled1 said:

Sorry if some of these responses are repeats. I'm not sure why... 

 

So....yes. I hadn't thought of something going wrong with utilities and not getting parts from China (or surrounding areas). And Little Sister, I've heard (read) reports like what you heard is happening in China, too....and the same in N Korea. I pray it isn't so.

 

I got a call from my Dad today.... giving me a sermon (literally) on trusting God. I do. I really, really do. Without Him, any preps are worthless. Noah was saved from the great flood....but he had to prep too!! Anyway....

 

Stocks took a plunge today, I hope y'all are okay financially.

 

Good points about the power going out. Will have to talk to the hubby to hurry and get stuff lined up (we have some, but nothing for long term set up). Heat would be a problem here, too, without power. And with young kids.....

 

Question: have you thought of having something to trade or barter in the future?

 

 

Joyfilled:  Your dad is right about being right with God. That should be at the top of our list in prepping. We should pray about what we need to do and then act on that answer. Though sometimes I just go out and buy what I think we need. But it has turned out to be what we needed. 

I do hope what they said about China is not true but they are a socialist/communist country. Lord help us if Sanders becomes the next president. He is very much a socialist/communist and has as much said so. 

And yes even Noah was told by God to prepare for the flood. As well as in Egypt when (wow, I know his name and went blank) I want to say Benjamin who saved the people from a famine when there was the 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine. He was prepared and did as God told him to do as well. There are a few places in the Bible where people were to prepare for bad things to happen. 

I can't help but wonder if this coronavirus is of God's will to wake the people up to turn to him. He does say in the Bible there will be earthquakes in virous places, famine, pestilence, wars and rumors of war. Seems everything is falling into place now. And in this country as the saying goes, A house divided will fall.  I look at this country and it is so divided both by political and by racism as well. It is so sad to see this country going down the way it is. 

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I have to agree with Jeepers. Get what you need now. I had that conversion with my daughter(26 and 1st time mom). I told her make a list and start stocking up on things. I feel like with everything going on, its not just going to be a medical emergency, but a financial emergency as well. The stock market has been going down, down, down the last several days. I think that sooner or later people are going to panic and there will not be anything left in the stores. We will be waiting for items that may end up being stuck in transit due to quarantines.

I feel like people will go from passive to DEFCON 1 quickly and it will end poorly for those that are not prepared.

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4 minutes ago, Mt_Rider said:

So....you are praying that the BBC China article is prematurely calling it "airborne"?    Yeah....I'd like to hear that too.  :pray: 

 

TB, measles, and pertussis have the distinction of being consider especially transmittable.  That's why my doc got so dead-serious when she heard my "whoop" ....gasping, trying to draw air back into my lungs after coughing exhale.  [The lab test decided I didn't have it but my bronchial tubes make one hellacious noise when I have bronchitis.] 

 

Tuberculosis .... "....cough, sneeze, shout, or sing. Depending on the environment, these tiny particles can remain suspended in the air for several hours. M. tuberculosis is transmitted through the air, not by surface contact. Transmission occurs when a person inhales droplet nuclei containing M. tuberculosis, and the droplet nuclei traverse the mouth or nasal passages, upper respiratory tract, and bronchi to reach the alveoli of the lungs "   https://www.cdc.gov/tb/education/corecurr/pdf/chapter2.pdf

 

Pertussis..."Pertussis is a contagious, acute respiratory illness caused by the bacterial pathogen Bordetella pertussis. Although it is widely believed that transmission of B. pertussis occurs via aerosolized respiratory droplets, no controlled study has ever documented airborne transmission of pertussis. We set out to determine if airborne transmission occurs between infected and naive animals, utilizing the baboon model of pertussis. Our results showed that 100% of exposed naive animals became infected even when physical contact was prevented, demonstrating that pertussis transmission occurs via aerosolized respiratory droplets. "  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3501154/

 

Measles ...  "measles virus can live for up to two hours in an airspace where the infected person coughed or sneezed."   https://www.cdc.gov/measles/transmission.html

 

"Float" is what we don't want to hear.

 

MtRider  .......off to Walmart with THE LIST  :shopping:

I don't think they have really said it is airborne or not but we all best be praying it is not. That would make this spread worse than it is. 

Ah yes Walmart, China town, Wally world. Have fun Mt. Rider. Better now than this weekend when everyone is off work and don't forget 1st of month is food stamps and snap. Busy and crowed.  We went the other day. Today we went to BJ's wholesale and it looks like people are starting to get it together around here. Overflowing baskets of stuff. We are done, so now staying home. 

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As I understand it, the gold standard test for this bug is an anal swab.  Standing in a line for such testing by military personnel is not acceptable in US society.

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6 minutes ago, Peg said:

I have to agree with Jeepers. Get what you need now. I had that conversion with my daughter(26 and 1st time mom). I told her make a list and start stocking up on things. I feel like with everything going on, its not just going to be a medical emergency, but a financial emergency as well. The stock market has been going down, down, down the last several days. I think that sooner or later people are going to panic and there will not be anything left in the stores. We will be waiting for items that may end up being stuck in transit due to quarantines.

I feel like people will go from passive to DEFCON 1 quickly and it will end poorly for those that are not prepared.

Hello Peg.  I do agree with you. Get it done early, avoid the crowds. The panic will come later as people start to wake up and find out this is for real. We don't do the stock market so it won't really effect us to much. Though our retirement checks could be a few dollars less. But not enough to hurt us so far. Just something else to add to my prayer list. it seems to be getting longer each day. As long as the trucks are able to roll we will be ok. But so much comes from China that could be a big problem for us.

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All we can do is pray and prepare.

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6 minutes ago, Ambergris said:

As I understand it, the gold standard test for this bug is an anal swab.  This is not acceptable in US society.

Anal swab would be last resort. They are doing blood draws and respiratory serum test as far as I can tell right now.

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It appears that there's one person in the Belleview, Illinois area that has now been "suspect" of the C19 and is transferred to ??? I forgot the hospital's name.  Not good.

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21 hours ago, Mt_Rider said:

Joyfilled.....president speaking tonite?   Hadn't heard that.  HOPE I still have another day or two....cuz we didn't shop today.  Looong story and a longer day.  Hope your sister gets to where she's intending...safely.  :pray: 

 

MtRider  :unsure: 

Trump is down playing this. Either because he doesn't want to project fear in people or because he is afraid the economy will collapse. He was on Twitter ( please take his account away) saying the Dems are at fought for the economy. He's not stupid but is surely playing dumb. Dems have nothing to do with what is happening to the stock market nor the economy. Its the Coronavirus. People do not want to go out to eat and now staying away from crowds. The buying of many things is going to be effected. We can look at China and see where so many places of business have been closed for a month. Factories that sell to other countries have closed down. Look at Apple out of China, this is not the Dems this is the Virus shutting us down.

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Called some friends this evening to check on them and she said they had been in Colorado to visit their son.  Said they were sick...quote "we let ourselves down and didn't practice good handwashing etc.".  They think this c19 thing is over-rated...figure?  It may very well be, but why take the chance?  We won't be visiting them any time soon!  The regular flu season is still at large and allergy season is arriving before long.  Everybody's mucous membranes will be irritated and vulnerable.  Keep your humidifiers running peeps and keep your guards up!

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