Mt_Rider Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Here is an opinion on this container ship incident by the Ice Age Farmer. This is a video discussing the not-very-believable possibility of this being caused by "sandstorm"....as Eurphrasyne has mentioned. Also notes that the ships are always piloted by specialists from this canal. Lot of speculation.... YMMV https://www.patreon.com/IceAgeFarmer Scroll down to the article "Suez Shipping Nightmare" He also mentions the plastic shortage ...we talked about that in another thread about the shortage of plastic 'resins' starting from the ice in TX. I've read some of his climate article. His theory in this situation is that "they are shutting down the system that has fed the world" .....so if that's not your theory, ignore that. Lots of things he ties together but ... we have discussed a lot of the things he's talking about. MtRider Quote Link to comment
Mt_Rider Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Thinking of cargo stuck on the massive stuck ship .....and on other ships who can't get thru now: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/stuck-in-suez-canal-thousands-of-animals-packed-tight-in-ship-hulls MtRider ......it's not just oil and cotton and stable cargo 1 Quote Link to comment
Jeepers Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) Here is a link to his site without being on a patreon page: Ice Age Farmer - YouTube The last I heard, Egypt wants to unload the cargo. Other countries are running out of cargo containers to fill. Edited March 28, 2021 by Jeepers Posted Too Soon. 1 Quote Link to comment
euphrasyne Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) They want empty cargo containers? They have a couple hundred thousand stocked in the yard by the Elizabeth River bridge here. Tell someone to come get 'em. That boat is huge, but DH says its kinda small in comparison to ones he has worked with and several other types of cargo ships are bigger. Potentially, you could go around Africa instead of across. it would add approximately 1-2 weeks to shipping time. Edited March 28, 2021 by euphrasyne 2 Quote Link to comment
euphrasyne Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) Also..I am an idiot. Why would they need empty cargo containers? They just use a large crane to move the current cargo containers to a new location. Those things are designed to go from ship, train, or back of a 18wheeler. They also just offload into stacks on the ground. We see them everywhere around here since we are the main import area of the US for shipping since we have the deepest bay. That ship truly is an average size for what it is and isn't tying up an undue amount of containers. Edited March 28, 2021 by euphrasyne Quote Link to comment
Mt_Rider Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 hours ago, euphrasyne said: That ship truly is an average size for what it is and isn't tying up an undue amount of containers. But.....it is tying up the route for a lot of cargo ships to deliver a LOT of goods, right? I'd think that would be the question for normal folks like us. MtRider 1 Quote Link to comment
Midnightmom Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mt_Rider said: Thinking of cargo stuck on the massive stuck ship .....and on other ships who can't get thru now: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/stuck-in-suez-canal-thousands-of-animals-packed-tight-in-ship-hulls MtRider ......it's not just oil and cotton and stable cargo I've been wondering why some of the waiting ships - the ones with "stable" cargo - don't just exit the canal and go around the horn. It might add two weeks to the journey (according to the article) but at least they would be moving. However, the ships with animals may not have that option: Quote Risks En Route Vessels that crowd thousands of sheep and longer journeys raise the risk of disease and stress, said Stevenson of the animal welfare group. Some ships used to transport animals also have been converted from other purposes and aren't ideally suited, he said. It can be difficult to reverse course after departure due to health rules. Edited March 29, 2021 by Midnightmom 1 Quote Link to comment
Midnightmom Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) BREAKING NEWS! The "Ever Given" has been freed from the banks of the Suez Canal is will be getting underway very shortly! The massive cargo ship the Ever Given has been dislodged from the Suez Canal after being wedged for close to a week. The 400-metre-long cargo ship, one of the largest in operation in the world, was successfully re-floated a short time ago, according to shipping monitors. The Suez Canal is one of the world’s most strategically important shipping routes and one of the highest traffic routes. The blockade of the canal had major trade ramifications including a dip in the oil price, but after 12 tugboats and land-clearing crews worked day and night to dislodge the ship, the Ever Given is expected to resume its journey. Edited March 29, 2021 by Midnightmom 3 Quote Link to comment
euphrasyne Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Oh definitely tying up the route. Someone said something about other countries needing cargo containers in that link from Ice Age farmer. That seemed very odd to me. 1 Quote Link to comment
Jeepers Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I think what they mean by other countries needing cargo containers is; each company has just so many containers at their disposal. They ship them out full and they return back to the company empty so they can be refilled and sent out again. The filled containers have been sitting on the ship for a week so the companies have no containers to refill their goods with. So the companies have had to slow their manufacturing process until they get their emptied containers back for refilling. That process could take awhile because now the ship has to continue on to its destination, remove the containers, empty the cargo and return back to the original port. That could possibly add another week to the cycle. It isn't that the containers are missing. Just tied up. That is my own hypothesis in simple terms. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mt_Rider Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Well.....at least this saga is [hopefully] coming to and end. [Hopefully] things will eventually get back to normal now. MtRider ...anyone wonder about that pilot person? Quote Link to comment
Midnightmom Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 This video gives a very good explanation about how this happened plus a very understandable explanation about what they are doing to get it released. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mt_Rider Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 That vid was interesting. As of this morning, Ever Given has been freed. But....it never occurred to me that it could be flexed and damaged during the process of digging it out. Then again....a second look at the WEIGHT it carries......unimaginable. My math is no where near adequate. His boy probably has passed my math up already! MtRider 2 1 Quote Link to comment
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