I am posting this and will make it a sticky so anyone interested in this can find it easily.
I have no idea what happened to the urls, and I am not able to delet this post.
Oh yes, I do drive, but the weather was nice enough and Old Pine was off, so it was we who went to church.
I don't go when it is hot out, as I have to stay in A/C and our church didn't put one in.