Sarah

This will be interesting. Thank you for the link.

Hmm... I think it is also time to raid the Archivist's cookbook section. I understand they got six more though the copyright free clearance process.

Oh, sorry. Check out icsarchive.org, our spin off site. It has a huge public domain cookbook section. All pdf. All free.

Sarah.

I had forgotten about this thread.

Yes, Jeepers, in the seventies there was a false scarcity of lids. We here at the Librum are working on the ILL ATOCI (think index) for Countryside and Small Stock Journal magazine from that time period. The uproar! I kept getting 'sucked in' and reading more than indexing.

Well, you ladies can have a laugh at me. I thought I had 'scored' on 'pull top' lids for standard cans. Lesson: Do not process with water over the lid top, it can weaken the pull top lip. They may implode. I lost three out of fourteen.

Sarah

??? Is subset of hardcopy original. Hmm... I will check copyright status, (may be in U.S., but we have to check international too). Our patrons would enjoy it. Thanks.

Ordered to take a break. (A bit of 'stream of consciousness', it is such a kadeoscope.)

This snow is causing havoc.

The county, and state, folks, are using the Librum's emergency action center, mainly as it is the only EAC with it's own, non generator, power in the county. It's radio section is also one of the few who's radios can reach the entire county.

For me, it is normally prep and augment until needed, then get out of the way!

The two 55 gal drum coffee makers, they can not keep up. Plenty of coffee though. We are out of the thermal mugs, and I remember inventorying over two thousand. Memo to self to increase the stockage level. The sugar/cream/substitutes are holding up well. Truvia is gone though. And the cracker packs, a dozen ritz type crackers in wax paper wrap, I had a room full, gone... Another note to increase stockage. Tea is going fast, especially Majere's high octane breakfast blend, but I think it will last.

I got a good laugh at these big burly men seeing the cases of Carnation brand water hot chocolate packs. I made the mistake of blinking, gone... Thier plows have water heaters, so hot choc on the roll...

The medical and emergency response folks are really suffering, several cases of 'trench hands', the thinsulate gloves are not waterproof and hold water. What was Land's End thinking?

The plow and emergency drivers are coming in, and collapsing in the bunks. Dr M's making the rounds of them, and administering a lot of vitamin shots, etc. Several accidents with the clearing equipment, and the medical needs for that are taking a toll. The salt heat pads are holding up. Also the hydroculator's. The electric heating pads are doing well.

Several nearly frozen state troopers in the kitchen. I was joking with one I know, asking if he wanted me to stack him in with the firewood. He actually seemed to consider it. Several of their 4-wheel drive cruisers are having heat problems, wrong coolant corroded the heating systems.

Gutta Percha! How did I not stock enough of that! We 'slick' the wipers with it. Snow/ice will kill wipers very quickly.

The state militia and guard are in route. With some of their tracked vehicles. They do not want to use them on the roads, the tracks will damage the roads, but may be forced to.

A civilian doctor, one I do not know, looking for me. Chloroaqua packs? Sure. Hold on...

A follow-on to this. The freezing unit, reportedly, works in the 'Slow' temperature range, limiting it's use. No, we do not have one in the enclave, but observing reports from others. Some unhappy customers.

Quoting from the Librum FaceBook website:

"Another update from the ICS side of the house. Due to the new 'home freeze drying' machines appearing on the market, and their freezing limitations, a request for prioritization change of ICS TP 5139 (1952) Quick Freezing of Foods was received. The Archivist did so, and it is now up. This training paper details the types of freezing, temperatures, etc for various types of foods. Sharp vs Quick vs Slow, etc."

It's at the archive in the ICS TP section, icsarchive.org. Ummm....

http://www.icsarchive.org/tp/5139-1952_quick_freezing_of_foods.pdf

A good read, even if a bit too technical for me.

Sarah

Yes and no. Our people do not 'do' wine. Beer. But our late mentor's mother did. From scuppernong and muscadine grapes. I distinctly remember the five galleon glass water jugs and vintner traps on top. She used a 'mother' to start fermention of the 'broke' grapes in ceramic crock. She then would strain the juice into the jugs, set the vintner traps, and let it work. No steaming/juicing, but with a mother, that should not be an issue. I also remember a system to make wine from Welchs grape juice, which is steam juiced before freezing.

I would do a google for welch grape juice wine.

Sarah

I got it! And am experimenting away. I never would have thought fish and cheese would be good, but he attacked that too. His family has the tradition of black eyed peas on new years, which I do not care for, he got it, from the crock pot. But we have a problem. Husband, son, and daughter make three. Now that we have our new daughter, I have to find a four or five count unit.

Sarah

For those into self abuse...

http://www.doomandbloom.net/how-to-make-insulin/

Make your own insulin!

Main prescription is glucose tablets.

Wait a minute. Those are still prescribed/available? Hmm... Did you know if diped in a certain household chemical, and dried, they make fire starters? Going to have to check on this. Thanks!

Being old fashioned, Sarah,I prefer the old way of looking at things. Grin..

Spent the day upgrading the motherboard memory on our fleet of laptops, in preparation to converting them from WinXP to Linux mint. 512m to 2G. I did it so if they got messed up, it was my fault.

Also tested the new 16g thumb drives. Lot of 20. Four not to full capacity. That took time. It is so frustrating, these are american made, but their QC is just as bad as china units.

Spent a bit of time polishing the student sign-up sheets. Got a good crop of folks this time. Shame we do not have more husband seekers here. There is some prime stock on the hoof in this class, so to speak.

Christy, my 'new' daughter, with me whole time. Timid, watching everything. The look on her face when she looked at the torx screwdriver... Precious.

Got home to find Amos home early, his eye giving him more trouble. Looking forward to his appointment. Patched his eye, after cold vaporing.

He had fired up the 'new' crock pot, and loaded it with beans this morning. He is about to learn why I do not normally do beans. After tonight I bet he will not do that again.

Sarah

Quickie history...

'Old-old school' terminology, diabetes was detected and clinically defined as sugar/keytones in the urine and/or other body fluids.

Then the hyper-hypo-diabetic terminology was brought in. These are 'old school' terms.

Hypo = consistantly low blood sugar, body naturally produces too much insulin. Not diabetic.

Hyper = consistantly high blood sugar, body naturally does not produce enough insulin. Not diabetic.

Diabetic = 'out of control', 'high and low', 'bouncing'.

Today those terms are not used and are 'depreciated'.

Today, everybody is diabetic if not in 'bounds'.

Any recording on a standard meter of above 180 or below 80. mg/dl.

Or, new wrinkle, any recorded reading of a high (>6%) or low (<4%) A1c.

(A stressment here, a STANDARD A1c. There are alternates with different scales.)

Per an old ADA posting, the idea is/was to 'uncomplicate'.

This was controvercial, but been accepted.

I will shut down now.

Sarah

MtRider is indeed feeling blue........

 

another giggle.

Now if I can just figure how to easily break out a to multiquote. Dropping back to cut/paste.

> I still can't comprehend most of the explanations. But .....once the Thanksgiving fatigue is over, I'm hoping to begin at the main site and see if I can get in the 'front door'. I did see a pic of the building...log and stone. Neat!

Don't worry, it will come to you. It is simply a matter of keeping plugging. If I, with my eighth grade education can do it, you know you can.

And yes, I love our building. I would have thought it would be chilly with all that stone work. But it is not. And in heat, it is a real treat to walk into the natural coolness. It 'self' controls, which is good for the books.

> ...not looking for Librium

Not touching it.

Great!

There is also the book "Cooking Wild Game 1915" on the main Librum site.

Take that one with a left click too.

Let me see if the forum software will let me do a good link.

http://www.librum.us/stacks1/cwg cooking wild game 1915.exe

Yes, that worked, even if it does display funny. Abbreviated.

I got a chuckle with the mental image of me chasing a whale with a skillet.

Sarah

 

Looks like a good way to keep canning jars warm!

 

Yep...the temp goes up to 450 so it get them REALLY hot, just leave them like that for 5 or 10 minutes, then turn the dial down to 350 and they're ready for canning.

 

Umm... Carefull. I think that is above the maximum safe temp. But good idea.

(giggle) Mt Rider, feeling a little blue? (sorry, could not resist...)

OK, first off, ladies, you reinforced what I thought. The additional expense of having the mini-connector thumbs is not worthwhile. Plus a separate PM on another forum told me something else I did not know. Adapters are less than $10, if they did not come with the device.

And as a few of you know, the 'Grab Bag' disks, sold by my 'superiors' on eBay, have the option of a thumb drive instead of a DVD/Blue. These are pure PDF, as we are not worried about band width with 'hard' storage. Even them 'androids' can get in on the act...

Not that we are doing away with disks, we must maintain DVD and Blueray (25g) disk capability to keep to the I-ILL archiving standards.

To embellish on the standards and site usage.

EXE format ebooks is the modern universal standard. Such will run from Windows 3.0 and up. MAC OS 8 (you may have to add a free PC emulator.). Linux family, anything that can run Wine emulation can run them. The alternates, such as google, are not standard. Most likely, an EXE will not work.

PDFis the 'ancient' universal standard.

There are so many standards, so many formats, etc. There should be no need for softwares such as Calibre.

Depending on your device, if not one of the above three O/S (Operating System) types, you probably have a mini-usb. If so, it may be only a power adapter, it might be a RDS, or it might be a OTG. A RDS (Remote Data Storage?)(also RDCS) uses a cable to access a PC and the PC controls the stored information of the device (Android did/does this). An OTG (On The Go) is simply a thumb drive hooked to the device for storage, sometimes via adapter.

On the site, if you are one of the three O/S, then depending on your browser, left click a 'stacks' link. Download will start. If not, then right click and select 'save as'. These are NOT PDF, and if you can not support EXE, then I am afraid you are stuck. You can get the PDF, but at $5 per. Be happy, please, that we can/will do that. It is a constant battle to keep them. Most of our peers have completely dropped the PDF. Most of our peers have completely dropped disks.

We have patrons who are OTG, but buy the thumbs. Again, the thumbs/disks are PDF. There is one who gets me giggling, as she reads on the 'throne'. Her thumb dangles via cable from her tablet.

If questions, ask. And thanks again for the feedback.

Sarah

(Mt Rider, a 'Librium' is an alcoholic cordial, in Spanish, think 'mixed drink'.)('Librum' means 'place where the scales are kept'.)(but there are times I think the alcoholic reference is appropriate...)

Sarah

I am working late again, playing catchup. This came in the In-Box. It is a zip file of text files of game recipes.

I just dropped it into the paperback archive until I can get back to it.

http://www.icsarchive.org/icsarchive-org/paperback/misc/game%20recipes.zip

The '%20' is a space if yours does not display correctly.

Depending on your browser, most will download and unpack from the zip archive and display with a left click. If not, right-click and save as.

Possum anyone?

Sarah

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Might want to make a thread on that, Sarah. I've never been able to click on your link and arrive anywhere. Sounds tantalizing ....lots of topics of interest. Just can't ever arrive.

MtRider ...using PC laptop Windows 8 [was that the last one before the version they're currently hawking?

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OK.

All libraries are complicated. So confusion is normal. That is why I normally man the 'Vot?' desk. Right in front of the main entrance.

Ask and the Librarian will send you. (evil grin)

I probably greet every patron.

"References are behind the check-out desk, the paperback shelf is through that door, the Majere Memorial is through that door, ... Fiction? FICTION! WE DO NOT *DO* FICTION!" And proud of it.

On the Librum site:

The big three are the 'Reference Desk', the 'Card Catalog', and the 'Paperback Shelves'.

Those are the big three. The others are supporting material.

Reference Desk. On our main page, you will see a link to the 'Reference Desk'. Third one down, I think. This is the main section. Here you will see a list of available restored works.

By each work are 1) Call code. 2) ATOCI. ATOCI is ASCII Table of Contents and Index. Ever handed down a book and flipped to the table of contents first? The index?

The 'Stacks' is to directly download the free EXE format ebook of that work. If your browser has trouble with left clicking the Stacks link, then try to right click and 'save as'.

The 'FS' link is to directly download a unlocked PDF of the work, for a modest fee, this is to support those who can only import via download, and/or can use only PDF. .ANCIENT. But if you are a cro-magnum, we will try to supply you with stone slate, but slate costs.

Also noted is what 'grab bag' disk the work is on, that you can purchase for your own library. Think of a 'Friends of the Library' sale.

Reference Desk Card Catalog, also called the 'Research Desk'. Fourth one down, I think. This is a search engine, that searches the ATOCIs and tells you what work it found a 'bingo' in. Type in what you want, and it lists all the works it has looked in, and tells you of any 'bingo's. Type in something like 'apple', and sit back. We did have these direct linked but nobody used it that way. In house, they print it, and run with the pages making sounds much like 'gollum'.

Paperback Shelves. On our main page, you will see a link to the International Correspondence School Archive. aka the ICS Archive. Sixth one down, I think. The Archive is *NOT* the Librum. But the Archive now hosts our 'Paperback Shelves'. These are the lowest common denominator ebook format, the PDF, and all are free. The Archive is geared to ICS related, but look for the 'paperback shelf', and therein you will find that HUGE cookbook section and other goodies. WARNING: If the file is PDF, you browser may try to directly render it. This takes time. If a PDF, do the right click and save as...

Again, the other things on the main page are 'supporting',

Yes, Win8 is the present mainstay of Windows OS, with 10 being introduced. We are NOT going to Win10, we stand to lose too much of our older machinery, so we are going to Linux Mint. And under Win10, the EXE ebooks work. But Win8 better (so have fun!). And Win7 even better. See a pattern?

Ah, my new child is saying 'bed'. Nighty...

We have been busy updating our free ebooks, to an upgraded format, now supporting the MAC OS better. The Android is next (with crossed fingers).

In another thread, I was advised that you folks were having difficulty using the librum.us site.

I suspect some of you may be using devices that can not run the *EXE* format ebooks.

So, what devices do you use?

Does your device run Windows? Linux? MAC OS?

(all support EXE)

Android?

A different 'e-book reader' device?

A Smart Phone?

(by the standards these last three must support PDF, if you can get them into the device).

(we charge for PDF. If you came into a library and asked us to translate the newest novel to braille, you would expect fees. Same thing.)(But it is there, on the shelf, but please help cover our costs. Thank You!)

Sarah

PS: Related question. As we phase out our CD and DVD grab bag disks, moving to thumb, which type of connector do your devices have?

There is standard USB, RDS mini-USB (connect via cable to computer to load)(often combined with power/charging), or OTG mini-USB (thumb drive to device, either direct or by cable). I ask as the thumbs must match, and the costs vary.

Thank you Becca.

I dropped out of this thread as I felt I was being 'targeted' as Pro VA, which I am not. I also felt that what I was trying to say was not being understood.

As you have read, I am oriented towards type 1. It is good to have somebody who is type two savvy. Good information for them.

I only have one disagreement with what you posted. Type 1 is not always autoimmune, per the endocrine doctors..

Out of curiosity, any type 1's under your care? Especially ones that did not travel from type 2 to type 1. There i could use some help with ours.

Sarah

Crockpot Hot Chocolate:

1.5 cups heavy cream

1 14oz can sweetened condensed milk.

2 cups milk chocolate chips (Hershey preferred)

5 cups milk.

1 tsp vanilla extract.

I split between two 2qt crock inserts. One I put in the refrigerator, the other goes into the base.

Simmer on low about an hour. Then put in dipper. When empty, put in other crock, and repeat.

It does not last long.

Looking forward to the three dipper unit.

Sarah

Thank you Twilight.

Jeepers,

Insulting and rude? The books are rude. And you are obviously seeing a very limited range of that genre. I would say over half are, well, porn. I was not criticizing the clean ones, or your selections, or saying you have a fascination. I consider Beverly Lewis a 'clean' author, even if a bit loose with the facts. OK, more than a bit. I simply do not understand the apparent fascination we see from the English. Yes, we have a few of hers here. They sit on the shelves. See Twilights note that her library has a large section, that matches my experiences when visiting other libraries. There *is* a fascination.

Do/have I read such? I have 'scanned' some, but I rarely read fiction, and I could say that our fiction section is very limited. I guess I could say that that is another, umm..., 'constant' among the brethrens. In my case, while I have a wider selection, being a librarian, I simply do not have the time. My nose is usually in older cookbooks, when it comes to 'light' reading. It is good you have such OOA contact, you have 'counter-slant'. And I too can point to other very negative press, such as 'XAmish'. And I could tell some stories too (the Librum site 'flies' the X-AM flag).

I used to think that such were simple 'escapism', people wanting an escape from their English environments, but having had so many 'porns' shoved in my face I realize this is not the case. There is a lot of exploitation going on, which I do not understand.

As to the last, ignoring your posts, I do find your opinions, 'interesting'.

To the Others,

Could I have some other opinions? Am I being overly sensitive, or 'too close to the candle'?

Sarah

(sigh) Another one.

Jeepers, please explain to me why the fascination of such romance. I am concerned that such 'targets' us, OOM and OOA.

Please, can you explain it to me?

Wait a minute here please. Not justice in being scalded, no, but justice in that he should have known better, Frankly, he got off light.

I often shake my head at 'experts' giving out outdated and dangerous 'gospel'. I live in an environment that is more resistant to innovation, so perhaps I am more sensitive to this.

A quickie history lesson.

-Originally 'jars' were glass on glass sealed. A 'water trap' or grease seal gave it a air tight seal. This is still the technology used in chemical laboratories, using chemically inert Vaseline or KY. Rubber introduces other chemicals.

-Then came the glass dome clamp down jars, with separate rubber rings. These would commonly 'erupt', causing many injuries. Especially as folks often had to struggle to clamp and unclamp. The rubber rings lost their 'volitiles' and become brittle. One 'slicked' the rings before use to compensate. In fact you bought them in a light oil, and I was taught to never buy 'dry' rings. And lets not overlook the imperfect glass rims.

-Glass dome was replaced with flat clamp down glass. This was to compensate for the glass edge issues. The flat disk were easier to grind to finer tolerances. The rubber rings became partially synthetic.

-Atlas introduced the flat metal lid, with a dimpled rim, so that you knew which side to put to the jar glass edge. No rubber, but oil/wax/etc. This was a wartime issue (WWI?), rubber was scarce. There was also a media/press 'scare' of poisoning, as some folks used shellac to slick. Do you remember folks wax dipping sealed jars? This was to combat the rubber drying out. Same time period.

-Universal developed a rubber dip that you would dip the whole lid in. This is in response to the scare.

-Atlas developed the fixed rubber to lid.

-Ball introduced the 'button' lid, and 'perfected' the synthetic fixed rubber. But Ball lids of this day were dangerous in another way, razor sharp. People wore gloves. I still do.

-(psst... There is, in development, a new plastic lid with pop-up, which much less heat sensitive. It uses a brush on, then melt in bath seal.)

In the video, the lid is clearly misshapen. Heat warped. He should have known better due to history and common sense. But perhaps you are right. Perhaps another trip down memory lane will save some folks from injury.

Sarah

Amendment. We are still very much 'can' people, real cans. People have often asked me why this is. While the 'cheap' home canning using jars has come a long way, it is not, in our elders views, perfected. Canned goods are much safer in so many ways. But I will concede, cost is a major factor to the 'home canner'.

???

He pulled a jar from the bath with the dimple up?

Justice.