Sarah

Yes I'm aware of spring houses. They are great. But I wouldn't use one for drinking water without some form of purifying first.

 

up to 100' depth to water level. [around here, we're TWICE that deep!]

The cheeses and other dairy float in that 'unpurified' water.

And 'pitcher' pumps go up to 150 foot, and can be staged, at 125 foot. Staging is where one pumps up to the next stage. You can go three stages. Be advised though, such are avoided, due the 'leathers' (the pump seals) tendency to grow microoranisms on them, leather (original) or black rubber/synthetic.

But I think the folks here are right, from an 'English' viewpoint. Many of the practices of my mother and relations would seem dangerous to the folks here. By all means, filter, if you do not trust/test your water. I certainly would filter a staged pitcher pump. Still, the bail bucket is an option, in a loss of electricity or SHTF, not to be discounted. If overly concerned, grab a bottle of 'old settler' (brandname) and use that.

A point of curiosity. Local 'code' requires all private wells to be tested every six months. Is this the same everywhere else? 'Shared' are also six months, but also require a full chemical analysis. Shocking then testing is verboten. Nice fine if any chlorine detected.

I did get another giggle. Back in the seventies there was a large 'drill your own well' using the hydro drillers movement, as advertised in Countryside magazine and the like. Did you know those are illegal in these parts? A neighor had to pull his pipe. Justice/.carma.

Sarah

of the Librum

 

Um..... ....it was my understanding that the "wishing well" type went out with the covered wagons. People don't really have open wells in the 21st Century....do we?

Grandfathered. I pass one on my way to work.

Same with 'spring boxes' and 'spring houses' and dug ins... I know that one because a certain mennonite dairy I know wanted to build a new 'horseshoe' house (where the spring runs around three sides of the room)(The cheeses float in the cool water.). They were 'coded', and construction permits refused. So they roman cemented in a spigot. Pass.

Sarah

Ambergris, those are not chapters, those are ATOCIs of various works. Ascii Table Of Contents and Indexes.

I said scroll down to the TEOCL entry.

Here, I will assist...

http://www.librum.us/atoci/teocl%20the%20encyclopedia%20of%20country%20living%201994.txt

Sarah

Daelith, you are most welcome.

To all: I did have a busy day, but did get about five minutes, and reloaded the ATOCI for the ninth edition into the search engine. To grab your own copy, visit the search engine fodder directory, http://www.librum.us/atoci/, and scroll down for the TEOCL entry. Click and enjoy the text file in your browser. Save if desired. Hoping it helps somebody...

Sarah

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I think some folks here are overlooking a mennonite tradition. If you have a standard cased well, then have a 'rope bucket'. Even if you do not have electricity, or it is a SHTF, your water is still available. I am not talking 'pitcher pump', but that is an option if your well is not too deep.

This is water you know, and have trusted. No 'storage' needed.

Now, if you have to use electricity to 'r-o' filter or 'i-r' your water from your well, well... You should have better water.

You can find such buckets near any mennonite or amish community. If you have none such, then grab a Lehmans catalog. Here, let me look it up for you... "Lehman's Own Galvanized Well Bucket", page 126, Summer 2015, cataloge #1408e. $69.95.

Ours are brass, not galvanized. Heavy minerals.

Sarah

'The Encyclopedia of Country Living: An Old Fashioned Recipe Book' is the origional title, of earlier editions. But this title was reused with her passing, as a legal dodge, by the reprinting vultures, so it can be fuzzy. Carlas daughter won the court cases, and the '40th' is put out by her.

The '9th' edition, supposedly, is the last 'true' self published version. I am not saying that later are not her's, but the ninth was the last she had full editiorial control.

Yes, I knew her. And we (the Librum) have copyright permission to electronically reproduce the 9th edition. We didn't and I doubt ever would, out of respect for her and her daughter. Both have been guest researchers at the 'brick-and-mortar' Librum.

Also, we had an ATOCI index for the ninth in our online search engine, but took it down. It is only the ninth edition! But if anyone needs, drop me a line at our guest book, I will get you a copy, or stuff back into the engine.

The gardening book... Much of it's material is from the original, but updated. A spin-off. But I have been told it stands on it's own nicely.

Wish I had more info for you...

Sarah

of the Librum

Punched zucchini into the search engine here at the Librum site.

HCOOK THE BOOK OF HERB COOKERY 1941
Sweet Marjoram with Zucchini. HCOOK 143
Sweet Marjoram with Zucchini Salad. HCOOK 157
Zucchini, Fried with Marjoram. HCOOK 143
Zucchini Salad, HCOOK 157

So if you are on a PC, grab the 'check out' copy on the reference desk, it is an exe file, run and enjoy. No expiry.

And don't skip out checking the cookbooks over at our DD site, icsarchive.org.

Sarah

Jeepers, we found a 'service' to be turned off, that will stop that. I do not remember the odd name. Do a search, you will find the info, we did.

Twilight

I think you will be visiting our link soon.

Sarah

CGA, have you visited the cookbook archive at the paperback shelf at icsarchive.org?

Today is the weekly 'summer reading club' day for the school age kinder. We also have some elder-elders, who come in to read to the younger kinder. It is a Seuss day, green died scrambled eggs. Guess what book...

This might be just the thing for some of the computer disadvantaged elder-elders. AH! Have already found one on the ILL request list, .Thanks.

Sarah

of the Librum.

I have always been an anti-perfume person, so that rant is right up my alley. I have been told I am a 'permone' person, so that makes sense too.

I do see a trend against the modern perfumed products over the last year or so. One of our 'retired' works, meaning it payed out the restoral costs, and thus been moved to the Paperback shelf, is "A Practical Guide for the Perfumer. 1868", in the Paperback (free) section.

As to removing such smells, if 'Zot' or liquid 'Ivory' does not kill it, it gets trashed.

Thank you! Now to figure how to label, without damaging them.

Go ahead, laugh, but I do not know.

Spring cleaning, found a set of three measuring spoons. Obviously, these were relics from the late Goodwife Lee. But I had never seen ones like these. Obviously very carefully custom hand made, well used. All marked.

Is there such a thing as an official volume measurement for a 'smidgen', a 'dash', and a 'pinch'?

I do not know!

Sarah.

Cleavers is galium aparine. Beggar's lice is Hackelia Virginiana.

Thank you.

Sarah

OK, you folks have confused me again.

Oh, I understand the salt vs health issue.

But not all fermented's are vegetable, or salted. Syllabub is one example. 'Soft' drinks are yeast 'carbonated'. Etc.

Jeepers, a BTW to you. When 'english' say sauerkraut we say salted. One can salt many vegetables, it is not only cabbage There is also fermented 'sweet'. I am sure you have had sweet pickles or relish.

Ah, I have the ultimate female rebuttal. Hersheys original chocolate is a fermentation process.

Sarah

(could not find an 'embarrassed' emoticon)

Just saw the 'bar assed'. Appropriate?

This 'bedstraw', is that the same as 'beggerlice'? Triangular sticky things. As a girl, mother would pick them off my socks and dress bottom, dry them by slow low heat roasting, run them through a squeeze desheller, and cook them like oats. It was used like wheet germ. I do not remember as a tea. Anybody got a botannical name for me to cross reference?

Welcome.

Hmm... Not available to me, for ethnic reasons, but does somebody have a recipe for 'vienna' sausages to work from? I know the 'english' style of making 'pate' and then casing that, can be canned and jarred. Isn't that what your standard dogs are, pate? Our sausages are dryed and hung. Think 'headcheese'. Sorry.

Sarah

Crabgrass, let me punch that into the online card catalog at the Librum... 41 bingos. Surprising few recipes.

AGGG AUDELS GARDENERS AND GROWERS GUIDES 1928
XXXVII Blueberry. 339-344
Blueberry, soil for, 64, 155, Volume I

A full section on blueberrys? That is promising.

FCOA FARMERS CYCLOPEDIA OF AGRICULTURE 1911
BLUEBERRY 233
Blueberry, 233
Blueberry, Barrens, Burning Over, 233
Blueberry, Cultivating Pine Barrens, 233
Blueberry, Harvesting With Rake, 233
Huckleberry (See Blueberry), 233

Well, OK. Might be some helps in that.

FF FOXFIRE 1-12
Berries and fruits:high bush black blueberry, 03:289
Berries and fruits:high bush blueberry, 03:289
Berries and fruits:low blueberry, 03:289-90
Blueberry cobbler, 03:291
Blueberry crisp, 03:291
Blueberry dessert, 03:29t
Blueberry fritters, 03:291
Blueberry juice, 03:291
High bush black blueberry (Vaccinium atrococcum), 03:289
High bush blueberry (Vaccinium coryntbosunt), 03:289
Hot blueberry sauce, 03:291
Low blueberry (Vaccinium vacillans), 03:2890

Oh, the typos! Three! Gotta have a word with a certain proof-reader. The 03 indicates the third volume.

And yes, if you have a PC, all three have the unlimited 'trial' (exe) versions online for free.

And you might want to take a walk in the ICSArchive's (icsarchive.org) cookbook section. No index for those, though.

Sarah

Amusing.

FYI, as the Fed/State change the rules every year, the enclave/community brings in H&R. It has been this way every place I have been. These take on a carnival like atmosphere.

This year, one of the 'agents' was a young handsome german speaker, he had to leave, he could not stand all the 'moon eye'ing.

On the storage question, You get the paper dupes, and the scanned paper on mini-cd. Original paper is filed.

Answer me a question, please. This year we had difficulty with PayPal not sending the 1099s for the Librum's disk sales. We had to go online and search. Very poor privacy protection, I might add. I knew that Fed/State already knows everything for a 'wage earner', but I did not realize just how accurate the 'estimated' is. They can send you this! So why do you have to file? Is 'big brother' just lazy?

Sarah

Can blueberries be started from dry seed?

 

Sarah, is there a copy of Madge Pettit's book on the families of genery's gap, alabama, in the librum?

Yes on seed, No on book. Sorry.

Sarah, I have a rain catch cistern, so have to be very careful with the water. Also have 38 acres to fence and it is 1/2 mile from the front to the back! I did use the hose in Texas to set posts though. Soil was sandy.

Understand. Sorry.