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I think I would skip using the bulls too Mother for the same reason. They are so unpredictable and can turn bad so fast. Think we would rather stick with the oxen also. And thanks, was glad to know I wasn't too far off on what I was packing. I forgot the well head and the leathers! Duh! Would have had to cap it off and run up to AH's store lol. It isn't just the library wagon Mother...what if something happened to the medical wagon, or your wagon? It's risky with any one of them. So I wouldn't mind putting my medical things in different wagons just in case. And that still hubby has is an old autoclave to switching it back to intended use is no problem if we need a sterilezer. Got it covered! Modern stuff vs. old stuff I hadn't even tought of like that. Since we have such a mix of the two here that we use daily of both. Like the cast iron cookware. I don't use anything else but that most times. So to think of it as old timey stuff? Nope, seems modern to me LOL. Yeah that tent in a bag thingy uses all the newer light weight materials that is water proof and rated to like -20 degrees. I don't think I would want to use an old time canvas tent, but that little wood stove thing is meant for that, so we would stay warm. But wow, could you imagine having to pack and put up, then take down and pack again a big old heavy canvas tent of at least 14x18? I liked Mothers idea of going back over the list and deleting things we could make when we got there. That's what got me thinking about not taking the table and chairs from the kitchen. They are solid oak and pretty heavy. So, I thought it might be better to have the hubby make that after we get where ever it is we are going here. Man has he got a lot of work to do then! Build the house, drill the well, make the furniture, plumb the house, etc...guess I am going to have to lend a hand as much as possible after I get the garden planted! Q

Okay let me give this a try and see what I can come up with using yall's lists as a guideline. Oh, I need to put a couple of books in the library wagon. A PDR for meds, Where There Is No Doctor, Nursing fundamentals (to teach others with), Surgical Atlas (praying I wont ever need it), Complete guide to Illnesses and their treatments. and OB/GYN Nursing. That's all for that wagon. Is there a medical wagon too? I need to put in a small bag with 20/25 lbs of equipment such as a couple of stethoscopes, bp cuffs (2), very padded thermometers, and some surgical clamps, etc...Bag/box will be about 12x12x12. Is that too big? I guess we are going to have to go with the oxen team for the wagon and for plowing and such once we get to the homestead. I am really going to need a donkey or a horse though once we get there to make rounds on. Maybe someone would donate one or trade once we get there? Maybe that can be someones tuition for the nursing school I want to open! Hey I will need at least one apprentice, preferably female (due to child birth issues and modesty, etc..sorry guys) so if we have any young ladies age 15-35? Might be an idea for you. Okay, since I moved to TN from IN in one day with one load about the same size as this wagon, I might have a clue how to pack this lol. At least I am hoping so. It's just the weight ideas I am having a problem visualizing. Especially with hubby's still and that equipment! I think it will come in very handy in just having for tincture making alone! Not to mention using that for antiseptic properties. I am sure we can think up some other uses for 80-90 proof liquors. Well let me start here and please give some feed back if I mess up. Mr. and Mrs. Q R.N for me. Everything from OB to ER. Also long time canner and sewing of clothes, quilts, etc...gardener for years. Willing to teach all. Good shooter. Avid fisherwoman. Can cook outside and good scratch cooker. Can skin and butcher own wild game, clean own fish. Mr. is electrician/plumber/gunsmith. Hunts, fishes, gardens. Has own water company so knows wells. Also has own still. Trains hunting dogs. Animals: 5 dogs will all be coming. Trained to hunt rabbit, squirrel. Eat raw diet, BARF diet. 4-6 chickens. 1 rooster and others hens so we can propagate own flock. Cages for chickens along with waterer and feeder. 1- 50 lb. bag cracked corn for feed + leftovers, scraps. Dogs will eat leftovers, also 2- 50 lb bags dog feed. Kitchen - 3 dutch ovens from 1 quart small fry lol to the big #10. All we own is cast iron around here so will pack in as much as we can. Have fry pans from the small #3 up to the larger ones. One good set of Old Hickory knives and sharpener. 1 AA model 921 canner. I can't leave that!! Has weight instead of guage now so no need to get it checked every year...whew! Canning jars....?????? Is it better to take them along packed with food or take them empty and packed inside and around them with sewing material????? I have boxes and boxes of them. Will pack in a lot of those. 1 tent wood stove - http://www.outfitterwarehouse.com/inferno-...kage-p-224.html only weighs 99 lbs! Not a bad heat output either! Made to heat a 14x16 or larger tent, light weight, so thought this might travel well to our new place to be used there until a better wood stove can be ordered. Also have to enamel coffee pots to hang off the wagon from the large camp fire size to the regular 12 cup size. Also 50 lbs. green coffee beans. I can roast those over an open fire along the trail to use. Stuff like the cast iron pans, pots can be hung under or on the sides of the wagon. Will have hubby rig up something to strap chicken cages to the wagon also. Lets see, we need plates, silverware, coffee cups. I have a set of grannyware enamel that I think we will bring along. It's almost indestructible and made of metal. That blue with white flecks in it? Yep, that's it! Also need the meat grinder, apple/potato peeler/slicer/corer, Victorio strainer, hand mixer, spatulas, turners, canning lids and rings, odds and ends of kitchen ware. Health: nursing bags and medical equipment in the other wagon. 1 small case of aspirin to medical wagon. Personal medical in small bag to go in our wagon. Sanitation: TP for trip then using rags at the homestead. Keep those in a 5 gallon bucket in the outhouse in clean water. Get washed frequently like you would do for diapers. use that bucket on the trip (with a lid and removable seat) for potty. Shower bag and hose. Lots of soap in bars for personal, laundry, etc.. toothpaste and extra toothbrushes. Hair scrunchies, brushes, combs. Deodorant or baking soda/baby powder. Towels and wash rags. Sleeping: Have a suitcase sized bag on rollers with a tent, 2 collapsible chairs, etc..in it for camping along side the wagon. Also has 2 sleeping bags in it rated to -20 degrees. I pray it wont ever get that cold while I am camping LOLOL... Clothing. All jeans. Both his and mine. But I will also have my long jeans skirts. I wear those all the time and they are so comfortable. I even ride in them. Also a few shirts for each of us along with underware. And bringing bolts of material. May need to use the fabric to pack jars and such with to make sure we bring as much of it along as we can squeeze into the wagon. Small box of patterns for mens shirts, pants, womens shirts, skirts and dresses. Also women underware, children's pj's and clothes (shirts and overalls.). Sewing supplies: bolts of fabric...see above on that. Also 2 sewing boxes about 10x10. One with nothing but spools of thread with packages of needles and loose straight pins packed in around the spools. And in the other one, buttons, zippers, hooks/eyes, buckles, tape measurer's, scissors, pinking shears, interfacing, etc... till I have to sit on it to get it closed! Also 1 treadle machine in a very small desk w/3 drawers packed with sewing supplies. Doesn't weigh much. Hubby's supplies: gun-smithing tools. Light weight. PVC pipe strapped to the side of the wagon. 1 small box with elbow and such plus pipe glue and cleaner. Rod's and reels for fishing. Guns wrapped up in quilts except for one shotgun for under the seat of the wagon for protection. Shine still and copper piping. I thought about us leaving this but then hubby said "wouldn''t you want someone making that for tinctures and wound cleaning and what if you had to do surgery? What would you use to clean the site and the instruments with?" So I gave in and told him it would be okay to bring LOL! General: Hand crank radio. Hand crank flashlight. Hurricane lamps. Candles. hubby can make table, chairs, bed frame when we get there out of wood. Hand tools to make home with. That is going to be weighty...but needed. Nails. Would a 3 gallon bucket full be enough? Or a 5 gallon? Sod for roof so no shingles. Oh, a sink please. I know we are going to forget something here...that is what scares me the most. What if we get out there and I forgot something stupid, like a can opener or the hand saw to cut the wood with? Oh add an axe here also and the saw and the can opener lol. But yall know what I mean? Ugh...back to packing...one well point and a hand driver. Need metal pipe to get it down with then will change to the PVC we brought with also. Save the metal pipe so someone else can use it to drive their well down with. two man saw. Okay that's enough for now. Will work on the people food tomorrow. Getting late now. Please look this over and tell me if I am doing okay or completely off the mark? Q

Q peeking in here....wondering if this wagon train will have room for one more wagon with an R.N. and a gunsmith who also is what some would call a "country boy"? He can hunt, trap, fish, etc...with the best of them anywhere with just about nothing lol. And I can do a lot of the medical that comes up having worked in the ICU. Even stitches, wound cleaning, etc... I think I need to go over the first post and see what we need for the wagon though. I know a team of oxen for it but we will need a horse for me too so I can ride over to who evers place is needing me for the medical problems. Would make it a lot easier to get to someones house on horse back once we get there than it would walking to your places! And there are a lot of skills we don't have such as raising livestock. So once we get there, we would rather barter services like medical for teaching how to raise goats say, instead of cash money. So...got room for another couple in one wagon!? Q

Welcome Karelle! So glad you joined us here. It is pleasure to meet ya' and I have to say you raised one mighty fine daughter in Darlene. She has been the kindest person and so thoughtful of others. Nice to know someone can keep her in line! There is so much to read here and learn. Please don't feel overwhelmed at it all. Anyone here will be happy to help you and just remember.....the only dumb question is the one not asked! May God bless you in your learning.... Q

Mother, I'll do the spirits and wine part, but it will be later today...have to go this AM for CAT scan. Will get DH to help me with it since his family have been "shiners" for generations now. Q

yeeah! Primative skills, that's it! I knew I didn't have enough coffee yet lol and even if I did, Mother could figure out what I meant. Plus with the sewing, I asked DH about it and he said we might want to include how to sew soles on moccosins too for footware. Then he says...well I guess then you are going to have to know which are the best leathers to use for them and how to catch the critters lol! Why is it with men you ask one simple ? and get an essay? LOLOL! Q

Originally Posted By: susie Suicide and euthanasia, just in case. susie in some cultures and religions that may be justified. it may even be considered a kindness? But just for me and my house, morals will not allow us to have part in that and legally as a licensed medical professional, I cannot have any part of a discussion that favors them as it will put my nursing license in jeopardy. I do wish you well with it how ever. Q

Sewing 101...right down to the basics. How can I make a needle? What to use for thread. Maybe some basic clothes without a pattern? I mean we are all going to need something to wear too right? I figured at some point you either broke all your needles, ran out of thread or it rotted, etc... And there are a lot of people out there that don't even know how to sew on a button too. Just like some that don't know how to cook...am I making any sense? Q (going for more coffee)

Am reading through this thread for Memorial Day and wondered how many of these men and women have rotated home yet? And do we have any new service people over there that are in need of special prayer? I know I have three on the list now: 1. Son Jerry - Army (been in 9 years now) - overseas 2. Son's best friend - John Kellaher (his third tour Iraq)- Army 3. Brother - Michael - Navy (re-upped at 45 lol...was in the first go round with Iran in the 70's and now a grandpa x3)- JAX Q

Wow, if you quilt check out this ladies patterns she has for free online! I'm going to make this one http://quiltville.com/smokeymtstars.shtml http://www.quiltville.com/ Q

I turned into Plano Pa? Thanks for dragging this thread up outta the dust, there are some great recipes in it! Q

Originally Posted By: Nett Alot of this sounds so good any way. I remember soup beans (pinto) and corn bread and if we were lucky fried taters. We eat that a lot! I cut up one strip of bacon into small pieces and put in with it to flavor the beans. Slice up an onion to go along with them and the cornbread and you have a hot, filling meal. DH calls this his "comfort" food. Another dish I used to make to stretch food is a one skillet meal. It uses one pound of ground beef, browned. One sliced potato. Some left over veggies like green beans, carrots, corn or whatever you have on hand. Throw them all in the skillet with the ground beef and cook till tender and warm. DH likes to put ketchup on top of his. I serve it with warm, fresh biscuits. Makes a great stick to your ribs meal that doesn't cost much at all. And I am surprised this is poverty cooking. I grew up eating this way so I'm with DH...It's "Comfort Food"! Q

I am soooo glad to see you back here and writing on this wonderful story again! Keep up the good work. It is much appreciated. Q