Midnightmom Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 This article is from a subscription service and you may not be able to read the whole thing if you follow the link, so I am adding a PDF of the article to this post. Quote No Bats or Pangolins Sold in Wuhan Wet Market: Oxford Research BY LILY ZHOU June 8, 2021 Updated: June 9, 2021 biggersmaller Print Neither bats nor pangolins were being sold in Wet Markets in Wuhan when the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus pandemic started, a study by Oxford University found. Chinese officials have claimed the virus, which causes COVID-19, originated outside the country, but it is widely believed to have come from a top-level laboratory in Wuhan, where the initial cases were detected, or from a seafood market near the lab. https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-bats-or-pangolins-sold-in-wuhan-wet-market-oxford-research_3849374.html No Bats or Pangolins Sold in Wuhan Wet Market_ Oxford Research.pdf 4 Quote Link to comment
Darlene Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Beware of propaganda. This virus was man-made. 2 Quote Link to comment
Midnightmom Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Darlene said: Beware of propaganda. This virus was man-made. I don't know if you were able to read either the article of the PDF, but that is exactly the point. It totally refutes (scientifically) the idea that this thing came from someone "eating a bat" (or bat soup) in the wet market. Quote Link to comment
Littlesister Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I agree. We have been lied to by the media and Fauci the whole time. I am still not getting that vaccine as for one I don't trust that it is experimental and still not FDA approved. Plus the fact I have auto immune disease and can't get it anyway. I am betting there is a lot about this whole pandemic that they are not telling us. Also just hearing what they are saying it almost sounds like they are planning another pandemic. Everyone just keep your ears peeled to what is going on in this world. It is not what we think, but what they want us to think. 1 Quote Link to comment
Jeepers Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I think one of the main reasons they don't want us to know the truth is because the United States helped to fund it. 4 Quote Link to comment
Littlesister Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Jeepers that is so true. Fauci has done nothing but lie about how he is tied into this virus. There were no bat soup or bats at that wet market like they were saying. Now he is trying to back track his lies. Just wonder how much he was involved along with others that this virus was used as a weapon to destroy a lot of the population. China is just as guilty by hiding the truth when it first came out. And we the people are the ones that had to suffer for it. 2 Quote Link to comment
Homesteader Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) The VA keeps calling me when I have an appointment and pressuring me to get a covid shot while I'm at the clinic. Finally, after a soft badgering yesterday, I told the lady that my records should show that I am part of the Control Group and not the Test Group. Silence. Then she went on with her script and said that they're close to having the vaccines receiving a final approval. I told her that when the animal testing phase is completed, I'd like to read the report and then make an intelligent decision on the injection. Silence for a bit of time. Then, She said, 'would you like for me to take you off the Covid reminder calling list?" I said YES, PLEASE. Edited June 13, 2021 by Homesteader 1 4 Quote Link to comment
Mt_Rider Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 High-Five with Homesteader!!! That was a masterpiece!!!!! MtRider ....my osteopathic doc has not said one word about THAT vaccine. Others, yes. But not that one. 2 Quote Link to comment
Midnightmom Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 22 hours ago, Littlesister said: I am betting there is a lot about this whole pandemic that they are not telling us. Also just hearing what they are saying it almost sounds like they are planning another pandemic. Everyone just keep your ears peeled to what is going on in this world. It is not what we think, but what they want us to think. One of my previous responses/posts in the CV-19 threads contains a video of Bill Gates talking about have a mobile international response in place for the "next" pandemic! So, yes, they will probably be another PLANdemic. 19 hours ago, Jeepers said: I think one of the main reasons they don't want us to know the truth is because the United States helped to fund it. I was listening to a news report a few days ago, and they said that we HAD been funding the research, BUT that Obama had stopped the payments. They also reported that according to his emails, FAUCI "quietly" reinstated the funding. In aswering questions (to Congress I believe?), he said - paraphrasing here - that the research was "necessary" but NOT the kind of research that you would do HERE! I guess he didn't/doesn't care what would happen to the Chinese people if such a virus escaped the lab. 1 Quote Link to comment
Annarchy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I read, Gates & Fauci, funded the initial research, & had it released, to stop Trumps “Make America Great” campaign, starting in late 2019. Nothing better then a quarantining to shut down the whole country. Don’t have the links… but, now, it really doesn’t matter. We have a governing caucus that seems, IMHO, to be destroying our country. No oil production left, no coal, we gotta buy it now from foreign countries. I paid $3.80/gal. to fill up on my trip this month. 2 Quote Link to comment
Jeepers Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I remember that too Midnightmom. I think it was one of the times that Rand Paul was confronting Fauci. I might have seen it on C-SPAN. Obama ban funding the 'Gain-of-Function' money going to the Wuhan lab. But as soon as his term was up, Fauci wasted no time in throwing more money back into the lab. I think he is shady. I haven't said anything because I can't remember when I heard it. But I do remember that Bill Gates and Melinda talked about getting ready for a major pandemic 'unlike anything we've ever seen'. It was about a year or two before Covid. It could have been an Oprah interview. I remember some people didn't know what he was talking about and some thought he was refering to climate change because that's what he usually talked about. Most people thought he was talking about SARS. I also remember him talking about people being prepared. He used to talk alot about an unnamed pandemic and being prepared for it. I guess we now know what he was talking about. Evidently he's known about it for a long time. 2 Quote Link to comment
Midnightmom Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 This is a very SOBERING video! Yes it "came" from bats, but it was NOT a "natural" jump like Fauci claim(ed), and the bats it came from were NOT in the market! Here is the (non formatted) transcript (in case anything happens to the video) Quote Transcript 00:00 the wuhan institute of virology is the 00:02 lab 00:03 under investigation by international 00:05 intelligence agencies 00:07 examining whether an accidental leak may 00:10 have started 00:11 the global pandemic tonight we have new 00:14 information 00:15 that will be of great interest to the 00:17 probe announced by u.s president joe 00:19 biden 00:20 we can show you footage from inside the 00:23 wuhan institute of virology 00:26 and interviews with the very scientists 00:29 at the heart 00:30 of one of the greatest cover-ups the 00:32 world 00:33 has ever seen how did the covert 19 00:37 global pandemic start 00:39 did the virus derive from bats end up 00:42 in the wuhan lab causing an inadvertent 00:45 leak 00:46 or was there an infected worker evidence 00:50 from this footage 00:51 will shed more light on some of these 00:53 questions 00:55 the wuhan institute of virology was 00:57 built by the chinese and french 00:59 governments 01:00 in a deal designed to promote 01:02 international 01:03 scientific research as you can see 01:06 french and chinese leaders attend a 01:09 ceremony 01:09 marking the signing of the agreement and 01:12 china's president xi jinping visits 01:15 a level 4 lab in france 01:18 for the first time we hear there were 01:20 intense 01:21 clashes behind the scenes 01:33 that admission from the deputy director 01:35 of the wuhan national biosafety level 4 01:38 lab 01:39 songdong ling in this extraordinary 01:41 video 01:42 produced by the chinese academy of 01:44 sciences back in may 01:46 2017 the video marks the launch of the 01:49 laboratory 01:50 it's called persistence unyielding the 01:52 construction and research 01:54 team of the wuhan national biosafety 01:56 level 4 laboratory 01:58 in this video song also admits they had 02:01 no prior experience in the area of 02:04 biosafety 02:05 yet they were dealing with some of the 02:07 world's most dangerous pathogens 02:20 found 02:28 yet they were genetically manipulating 02:30 bat coronaviruses 02:32 in highly dangerous experiments after 02:35 relying on the french government to both 02:37 fund and build the lab when it was 02:39 complete 02:40 the french were immediately kicked out 02:43 the french government was furious as 02:45 this was supposed to be a center of 02:47 international cooperation 02:49 and it raised alarm bells in french 02:51 intelligence 02:52 there were grave concerns about what the 02:55 scientists could be hiding 02:57 and what biological research they 02:59 intended to conduct 03:02 since the outbreak of covert 19 there's 03:04 been worldwide scrutiny 03:05 on the wuhan institute of virology its 03:08 scientists 03:09 its experiments and its laboratories 03:13 this newly unearthed video features an 03:16 interview 03:16 with shazang li the director of emerging 03:19 infectious diseases 03:21 from before she famously became known as 03:23 the bat woman 03:31 [Music] 03:37 and we learned for the first time just 03:40 how many 03:40 bat samples shazingly's team had 03:44 collected 03:52 [Music] 03:59 [Music] 04:00 fifteen thousand bat samples the wuhan 04:04 institute of virology's virus databases 04:06 were all wiped from the internet 04:08 starting on september 12 04:10 2019. shazingli claimed they had been 04:14 the subject of hacking attempts 04:16 but they've never been re-uploaded or 04:18 made available to any 04:19 investigating agencies even worse 04:23 the world health organization experts 04:25 investigating the origin of the pandemic 04:28 didn't even ask for access to the virus 04:30 database 04:31 as one of the team peter dagek confirms 04:34 here 04:35 while others nod their heads i asked 04:38 them 04:38 the question in front of the whole team 04:41 both sides 04:42 while we're at the institute warhead 04:43 institute of neurology about the um 04:45 so-called missing database and 04:47 what we were told by should you only was 04:49 that it had been 04:51 there'd been hacking attempts on it 04:52 about 3 000 hacking attempts 04:55 and they took down this excel 04:57 spreadsheet data based 04:58 database absolutely reasonable 05:03 we did not ask to see the data 05:06 it is shocking the world health 05:08 organization didn't even 05:10 ask for access to this database which 05:13 in 2017 may have had over 15 05:16 000 bat samples this amazing video i'm 05:20 bringing you tonight 05:21 has been unearthed by a team of 05:23 underground detectives 05:24 who relentlessly investigate the origins 05:26 of covert 19. 05:28 they call themselves drastic their 05:31 contribution to the origins question 05:33 has been arguably greater than that made 05:35 by intelligence agencies or government 05:37 officials 05:39 who very sadly until only recently 05:42 treated this crucial issue of how the 05:44 virus started 05:46 as a cold case or perhaps they just 05:49 accepted the line that it was a 05:50 naturally occurring virus 05:52 even though covert 19 has claimed 3.7 05:57 million lives and counting 06:01 one of drastic's members jesse a digital 06:03 archivist 06:04 made this video discovery along with the 06:06 group's coordinator 06:07 who goes by a pseudonym of billy 06:09 bosticson for safety reasons 06:12 billy's written a research paper delving 06:14 into the question 06:15 of whether the wuhan lab kept live bats 06:19 this question has been hotly contested 06:21 since the early days of the outbreak 06:24 peter dagek who i just showed you didn't 06:26 ask for the virus database when he 06:28 visited wuhan 06:29 has also denied there were bats kept at 06:32 the wuhan lab 06:34 in a december 2020 tweet he said 06:38 no bats were sent to wuhan lab for 06:40 genetic analysis of viruses collected in 06:43 the field 06:44 that's not how science works we collect 06:46 bat samples send them to the lab 06:49 we release bats where we catch them then 06:52 in a second 06:53 december 2020 tweet he repeated the 06:55 claim again 06:56 he said this is a widely circulated 06:59 conspiracy theory 07:01 this piece describes work i'm the lead 07:03 on and labs i've collaborated with for 07:05 15 years 07:06 they do not have live or dead bats in 07:09 them 07:09 there is no evidence anywhere that this 07:11 happened it's an 07:12 error that i hope will be corrected 07:16 well tonight explosive footage from 07:19 inside the wuhan institute of virology 07:22 indicates 07:23 his statements are wrong 07:26 it is not a conspiracy to say there were 07:29 live bats at the lab 07:31 it is a fact and as you can see 07:34 this video shows bats in a cage at the 07:37 wuhan institute 07:40 you can also see there a researcher 07:42 feeding a bat 07:44 with a worm and in this image we can see 07:47 researchers out capturing bats and a bat 07:50 even hangs off a researcher's hat 07:54 in another image there are mouse cages 07:58 hundreds of them we know that the wuhan 08:00 institute of virology 08:02 was using humanized mice for experiments 08:05 to see 08:05 which coronaviruses could infect humans 08:08 in 08:08 some experiments they used the humanized 08:11 mice to make viruses 08:13 that couldn't previously infect humans 08:15 do exactly that 08:18 these experiments called gain of 08:19 function aim to make viruses 08:21 more infectious and more virulent to try 08:25 and predict which 08:26 may cause a pandemic this footage 08:29 had it been available early last year 08:32 may have reshaped the entire narrative 08:35 around the potential origin of covert 08:37 19. 08:38 back then we were told there were no 08:40 bats at the lab 08:42 but we were told that disease-ridden 08:43 bats were sold and 08:45 butchered at the wet market you'll 08:47 remember this led to calls from 08:49 presidents and prime ministers 08:50 the world over to shut down wet markets 08:54 and videos did the rounds of chinese 08:56 people eating 08:57 bat soup in fact bats were never sold at 09:00 the wuhan wet market 09:02 and the videos were nonsense 09:06 dasic must have realized his public 09:08 statements from december 2020 were wrong 09:11 when he claimed it was a conspiracy to 09:13 say there were bats in the wuhan lab he 09:15 said we didn't ask them if they had bats 09:18 i wouldn't be surprised if like many 09:20 other virology labs 09:22 they were trying to set up a bat colony 09:25 i know it's happening in labs here 09:27 and in other countries that was just 09:30 june 09:31 2021 had governments known a year and a 09:35 half ago there were live bats at the 09:37 wuhan lab 09:38 this would have been crucial information 09:40 when they were making their assessments 09:42 about how 09:43 the virus may have leaked 09:46 dashik is also the scientist who 09:48 organized 09:49 drafted and signed the letter in the 09:51 lancet that said it was a conspiracy 09:54 to suggest the virus may have leaked 09:55 from a lab 09:57 while investigating my book what really 09:59 happened in wuhan 10:00 i discovered that dagek was invited to 10:03 brief the fbi 10:04 and the office of the director of 10:06 national intelligence at a meeting on 10:08 february 3rd 2020 10:10 in the earliest days of the outbreak 10:13 misinformation 10:14 was a key topic at that meeting he's 10:18 also now leading the lancet's own 10:20 investigation 10:20 into the origins issue he's co-authored 10:24 scientific papers with schezingli 10:26 and gone bat sampling with her and he's 10:28 funded her research 10:30 with grants from anthony vauch's ninih 10:34 his very involvement in the world health 10:36 organization 10:37 investigation was an extreme 10:41 conflict of interest given his initial 10:44 denials about the presence of bats in 10:46 the wuhan lab 10:47 a fact i've just shown is false how can 10:50 the entire world health organization 10:53 and its report be trusted at all 10:56 how can the investigation the lancet is 10:58 now doing be trusted 11:00 not long after dajjic and others who'd 11:02 worked with xi xengli 11:03 briefed the intelligence community they 11:06 released a statement 11:07 saying the virus was not made 11:11 the intelligence community also concurs 11:13 with a wide scientific consensus 11:16 that the covert 19 virus was not 11:18 man-made 11:19 or genetically modified that statement 11:22 from the office of the director of 11:24 national intelligence 11:26 on 30th of april last year 11:29 this statement is very clearly false it 11:32 always was false 11:34 there is no scientific scientific 11:36 consensus 11:37 that the virus had a natural origin it's 11:40 something flinders university professor 11:41 nikolai petrovsky pointed out 11:43 over a year ago better adapted to infect 11:47 humans than 11:48 any other animal and that's surprising 11:51 because 11:52 it it you know we're not aware that it 11:55 actually 11:56 has had the opportunity to do it to 11:59 adapt to this human receptor before 12:02 so it really looked like this was a 12:04 virus that 12:05 that is optimally designed to infect 12:09 humans peter dodjak's conflicts are 12:12 clear 12:13 he is compromised and should never have 12:15 been involved in briefing the white 12:17 house 12:18 or its intelligence agencies or 12:20 investigating the origin on behalf of 12:22 the world health organization 12:24 he personally thanked anthony fauci in 12:27 an email 12:27 when fauci publicly said the virus was 12:30 natural 12:31 fauci himself is also riddled with 12:34 conflicts 12:35 given it was grants from his own agency 12:38 that funded this dangerous research in 12:41 wuhan 12:42 he should never have been allowed to 12:44 give any advice or any briefings on this 12:46 issue of gain of function 12:49 to the white house yet he's the top 12:53 medical advisor to the president on the 12:54 coronavirus and he told the public 12:57 this was a natural virus he only changed 13:00 his tune recently 13:02 even though he knew at the time we know 13:04 there was advice to him at the time 13:06 that the sequences of sars cove ii 13:08 looked like they may have been 13:10 genetically manipulated 13:12 let's quickly recap why fauci said just 13:15 last week 13:16 that he funded this research in china 13:19 so you don't want to go to hoboken new 13:22 jersey 13:23 or to fairfax virginia to be studying 13:26 the bat human interface 13:28 that might lead to an outbreak so you go 13:31 to china 13:35 now to finish here's where the video 13:37 gets even 13:38 more concerning in one of the biggest 13:41 revelations 13:42 it even discusses the technical support 13:45 that's in place in case there are any 13:48 accidents 14:01 let's just hear that last bit again 14:12 in admission that accidents do 14:15 happen in laboratories they are common 14:18 they have cameras set up 14:19 to capture any accidents i'm guessing 14:22 the world health organization 14:24 didn't ask to see the security footage 14:26 from october 14:27 when there was a blackout at the 14:28 compound or from september when the 14:31 virus databases were suddenly 14:33 pulled offline in the video 14:36 there is also the promise of 14:37 transparency with the world 14:40 the statement would be laughable 14:53 [Music] 15:09 but instead of a world-class facility 15:11 intent on sharing their latest 15:13 discoveries 15:14 the laboratory kicked out the french at 15:17 the first 15:18 opportunity and shut its doors and now 15:20 since the outbreak 15:21 we have seen an extreme and breathtaking 15:25 cover-up from china 15:26 in relation to this laboratory and the 15:28 viruses 15:29 the scientists were working on we've 15:32 also seen senior scientists 15:34 who were supposed to be advising the 15:37 world health organization 15:38 supposed to be investigating the origin 15:40 of the pandemic 15:42 allow china's propaganda to continue 15:45 unchallenged 15:46 and fail to truly interrogate whether 15:49 the virus was a lab creation 15:52 or whether it naturally made the jump 15:56 from a bat to a human 15:58 perhaps from one of the bats that were 16:00 inside 16:01 cages at the wuhan institute of virology 16:04 itself for my full investigation on this 16:08 you can order my book what really 16:10 happened in wuhan 16:12 on amazon 4 Quote Link to comment
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