2020 Corona Virus

[Midnightmom]

On 3/31/2021 at 7:31 AM, Mother said:

It appears one consensus might be that the vaccine only confers that you won't get as seriously ill when you do get it and even then it's unknown how long the protection would continue.  

 

I was reading an article yesterday that said that the "protection" provided by the innoculation only lasts for 6 mos. 

 

 

 

On 3/31/2021 at 5:07 PM, Homesteader said:

MADISON - The Wisconsin Supreme Court on Wednesday blocked Democratic Gov. Tony Evers from issuing any new public health emergency orders to mandate face masks without the approval of the Republican-controlled state Legislature.   

 

In a 4-3 decision, conservative justices in the majority declared the statewide mask mandate invalid and ruled Evers exceeded his authority in issuing multiple emergency declarations over the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

 

This article would be just as informative, and less inflationary, if it had merely stated the ruling. 

Edited April 2, 2021 by Midnightmom

[Homesteader]

I did a copy/paste from a Milwaukee newspaper. Below is the ruling in PDF format.    

supreme_ruling_masks.pdf

[Ambergris]

The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is only designed to keep you from dying or going to the hospital, not from getting sick, so you are exactly right as far as that goes.

The vaccines that are designed to keep you from getting sick with the Italian variant will generally not keep you from getting sick with the other variants, but (as far as anyone can tell) will keep you from dying from the other variants or going to the hospital with the other variants, so you are pretty much right as far as that goes.

[Ambergris]

To clarify what I said above, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine advertises itself as something to keep you from getting the virus, but when they did their testing, they pointedly only tested it for how well it kept people from dying or going to the hospital.  That's why I say it's only designed to prevent serious illness or death.

[Ambergris]

The danger of going to basketball games:  https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/2021/04/02/alabama-basketball-super-fan-luke-ratliff-known-fluffopotamus-dies-23/7072066002/

He died of Covid complications on April 2.  And he was at the game on March 29 as always, yelling and cheering,  with his black gauze mask pulled down to his chin, spewing germs into the air.  He probably didn't know he was all that sick, if he realized he was sick at all.  But he might have singlehandedly turned that game into a super-spreader event.  Indianapolis has mobilized every resource to contain that potential.

[Jeepers]

Well that's just great. It only takes one person to start it all up again. It's not over yet folks.

Hope they are disinfecting the hotel and air plane too.  Crimony. 

 

Thanks for reporting that. I hadn't heard about it. 

[Mother]

I just can't imagine anyone putting themselves in a crowd that way sick or not.  Have we come to the point where sports and etc are more important than our lives and the lives of those around us?  Yes, we deserve our freedoms, but at what cost?  

 

 

I just heard last night that my brother has been hospitalized with covid.  He has asthma and has been extremely careful all along to NOT be exposed to it. 

 

[Midnightmom]

8 hours ago, Mother said:

I just heard last night that my brother has been hospitalized with covid.  He has asthma and has been extremely careful all along to NOT be exposed to it. 

 

I don't know if this is apropos to his situation, but I received this info by email not too very long ago. Even if he is not on Medicare the info could be used to help him plan/ask for an alternate program than one the hospital might be using.

Quote

Each day, more and more Americans are getting vaccinated across the country and gaining protection from getting sick from COVID-19. However, if you're not vaccinated yet and test positive for COVID-19 with mild to moderate symptoms, there's a treatment option that may help: monoclonal antibody treatments.

 

For higher risk patients, like those 65 or older, or with certain health conditions, these treatments can fight the disease and avoid hospitalization.

 

If you're experiencing symptoms of COVID-19, get tested as soon as possible — monoclonal antibodies must be given within 10 days of the onset of symptoms.

 

Monoclonal antibodies provide temporary antibodies to help fight COVID-19. The FDA approved this treatment for emergency use, and it's the only approved outpatient treatment currently available. Monoclonal antibody treatment may reduce your likelihood of being hospitalized and keep you from getting more severe symptoms. Learn more about monoclonal antibody treatments, and talk to your doctor or healthcare provider to see if this treatment option is right for you.

 

Remember: Medicare covers tests to diagnose COVID-19, monoclonal antibody treatments, and COVID-19 vaccines — so there's no cost to you.

https://combatcovid.hhs.gov/i-have-covid-19-now/monoclonal-antibodies-high-risk-covid-19-positive-patients?utm_campaign=20210325_cvd_prv_gal&utm_content=english&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

 

https://combatcovid.hhs.gov/i-have-covid-19/how-do-i-know-if-im-high-risk?utm_campaign=20210325_cvd_prv_gal&utm_content=english&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

 

 

[Jeepers]

I'm sorry your brother is sick Mother.        

 

Just thinking back at the concerts I used to attend. The last one was really something. It was an indoor arena with the Rolling Stones. The guy behind me gave me a rose and a kiss. He was young and handsome. And drunk. I didn't care. It was the Rolling Stones. Everyone was in a great mood. Understand this was Pre Covid. 

 

But even as Covid was raising its ugly head in 2019 and I heard The Stones were coming to my area. I had tickets in my shopping cart ready to hit the 'buy now' button. The only thing that stopped me was the rumor that concerts etc. might be cancelled and the refund policy looked sketchy. A week later stuff hit the fan and everything was cancelled. 

 

So yeah, I sort of get it. People are fed up with Covid and want to resume their normal life again. Especially the youngies. Would I do it now? Not even for Mick and Keith. 

[Littlesister]

Mother I am so sorry to hear about your brother.  Keeping him in .

 

I do agree that everyone is done with this corvid mess and wants to go back to living again in a normal way. But this virus is far from over. If it keeps mutating like they were saying, I am starting to wonder if the vaccine will work on these new strains.  I have not gotten the vaccine as I have an autoimmune disease and I need to see the doctor first anyway. But I really don't think I am going to get it.  To early yet to see how this will effect people in the long run. 

I do wear a mask when I go to stores and in some cases I wear gloves as well. I have several small trial size cans of Lysol that I carry in my purse. Even though they wipe down the baskets I still spray them with Lysol. I then come home and first thing is to wash hands and face. I say face because you never know what is lurking. Mask don't really protect when others don't wear them right. Many here don't even cover their nose. just mouth or they don't wear a mask at all. 

Jeepers I would love to go to a rolling stone concert. Hasn't been many concerts around here in a long while. Not even before the corvid hit.  I would have loved to just go to a movie with Dh before he got so sick. But it didn't happen and I can't see me going to a movie by my self. No fun in that. 

DH and I used to watch all the Bible stories on TV during Easter.  I did that all day yesterday. That is a tradition I will always keep. We loved watching those movies about Jesus. DH's favorite was the Bible. 

[Mt_Rider]

   for Mother's brother

 

MtRider     ....it's still happening....don't let your guard down. 

[Ambergris]

Please keep us posted on your brother.

Edited April 5, 2021 by Ambergris

[Jeepers]

Littlesister, I'd love nothing more than for us to go to a Stones concert together. They really do put on a fantastic show with all the bells and whistles and close ups. I got to hit the floating beachball at one of their outdoor concerts. I always get great seats with me on the end row so I can dance in the aisle. I would gladly share my seat with you! 

 

I think memories and traditions are important. They let us know we have lived.

[Ambergris]

Deaths in the week ending March 28:

Chart arranged by number of deaths:

	DEATHS TO DATE		ONE-WEEK TOTAL
State	Total deaths	Per 100K	New deaths	Per 100K	1-wk chg.
United States	549,485	166	6,987	2.1	–10.3%
California	58,431	148	1,396	3.5	+14.2%
Texas	48,315	167	743	2.6	–17.6%
New York State	49,737	256	596	3.1	+27.1%
Florida	33,819	158	450	2.1	–11.6%
Georgia	18,926	178	396	3.7	+26.1%
Kentucky	6,031	135	293	6.6	–61.2%
Massachusetts	17,115	248	248	3.6	+11.7%
New Jersey	24,389	275	215	2.4	–20.7%
North Carolina	12,028	115	208	2.0	+61.2%
Pennsylvania	25,058	196	205	1.6	–26.0%
Ohio	18,526	159	186	1.6	–60.3%
Arizona	16,918	232	173	2.4	–9.9%
Illinois	23,521	186	164	1.3	+8.6%
Michigan	17,047	171	141	1.4	+2.9%
South Carolina	9,122	177	115	2.2	–12.9%
Tennessee	11,816	173	107	1.6	+52.9%
Louisiana	10,087	217	99	2.1	–4.8%
Alabama	10,526	215	90	1.8	–17.4%
Virginia	10,198	120	81	0.9	–17.3%
Maryland	8,251	137	81	1.3	–33.6%
Indiana	13,023	193	77	1.1	–14.4%
Missouri	8,757	143	76	1.2	+28.8%
Nevada	5,236	170	64	2.1	+18.5%
Oklahoma	4,850	123	62	1.6	–28.7%
Arkansas	5,595	185	56	1.9	–13.8%
Utah	2,114	66	52	1.6	+48.6%
Iowa	5,725	182	50	1.6	+47.1%
Kansas	4,891	168	49	1.7	+172.2%
Minnesota	6,830	121	48	0.9	+33.3%
Colorado	6,196	108	47	0.8	–39.0%
Mississippi	7,001	235	45	1.5	–18.2%
Washington	5,218	69	44	0.6	–13.7%
Nebraska	2,175	112	40	2.1	+400.0%
New Mexico	3,925	187	36	1.7	–2.7%
Wisconsin	7,274	125	34	0.6	–46.9%
Connecticut	7,865	221	33	0.9	–50.7%
West Virginia	2,634	147	28	1.6	–63.2%
Montana	1,436	134	22	2.1	+0%
New Hampshire	1,237	91	20	1.5	+11.1%
Puerto Rico	2,112	66	16	0.5	–15.8%
Delaware	1,544	159	15	1.5	–31.8%
Rhode Island	2,608	246	13	1.2	–53.6%
Idaho	1,954	109	13	0.7	–58.1%
Oregon	2,375	56	12	0.3	–70.7%
South Dakota	1,933	219	10	1.1	–9.1%
Hawaii	462	33	8	0.6	+166.7%
Maine	736	55	7	0.5	+40.0%
Vermont	225	36	6	1.0	+20.0%
Washington, D.C.	1,056	150	6	0.9	–33.3%
North Dakota	1,466	192	5	0.7	+25.0%
Alaska	313	43	3	0.4	–25.0%
Wyoming	695	120	2	0.3	+0%

arranged by where this is going for the state:

	DEATHS up to 3-28		ONE-WEEK TOTAL
State	Total deaths	Per 100K	New deaths	Per 100K	1-wk chg.
Nebraska	2,175	112	40	2.1	+400.0%
Kansas	4,891	168	49	1.7	+172.2%
Hawaii	462	33	8	0.6	+166.7%
North Carolina	12,028	115	208	2.0	+61.2%
Tennessee	11,816	173	107	1.6	+52.9%
Utah	2,114	66	52	1.6	+48.6%
Iowa	5,725	182	50	1.6	+47.1%
Maine	736	55	7	0.5	+40.0%
Minnesota	6,830	121	48	0.9	+33.3%
Missouri	8,757	143	76	1.2	+28.8%
New York State	49,737	256	596	3.1	+27.1%
Georgia	18,926	178	396	3.7	+26.1%
North Dakota	1,466	192	5	0.7	+25.0%
Vermont	225	36	6	1.0	+20.0%
Nevada	5,236	170	64	2.1	+18.5%
California	58,431	148	1,396	3.5	+14.2%
Massachusetts	17,115	248	248	3.6	+11.7%
New Hampshire	1,237	91	20	1.5	+11.1%
Illinois	23,521	186	164	1.3	+8.6%
Michigan	17,047	171	141	1.4	+2.9%
Montana	1,436	134	22	2.1	+0%
Wyoming	695	120	2	0.3	+0%
New Mexico	3,925	187	36	1.7	–2.7%
Louisiana	10,087	217	99	2.1	–4.8%
South Dakota	1,933	219	10	1.1	–9.1%
Arizona	16,918	232	173	2.4	–9.9%
Florida	33,819	158	450	2.1	–11.6%
South Carolina	9,122	177	115	2.2	–12.9%
Washington	5,218	69	44	0.6	–13.7%
Arkansas	5,595	185	56	1.9	–13.8%
Indiana	13,023	193	77	1.1	–14.4%
Puerto Rico	2,112	66	16	0.5	–15.8%
Virginia	10,198	120	81	0.9	–17.3%
Alabama	10,526	215	90	1.8	–17.4%
Texas	48,315	167	743	2.6	–17.6%
Mississippi	7,001	235	45	1.5	–18.2%
New Jersey	24,389	275	215	2.4	–20.7%
Alaska	313	43	3	0.4	–25.0%
Pennsylvania	25,058	196	205	1.6	–26.0%
Oklahoma	4,850	123	62	1.6	–28.7%
Delaware	1,544	159	15	1.5	–31.8%
Washington, D.C.	1,056	150	6	0.9	–33.3%
Maryland	8,251	137	81	1.3	–33.6%
Colorado	6,196	108	47	0.8	–39.0%
Wisconsin	7,274	125	34	0.6	–46.9%
Connecticut	7,865	221	33	0.9	–50.7%
Rhode Island	2,608	246	13	1.2	–53.6%
Idaho	1,954	109	13	0.7	–58.1%
Ohio	18,526	159	186	1.6	–60.3%
Kentucky	6,031	135	293	6.6	–61.2%
West Virginia	2,634	147	28	1.6	–63.2%
Oregon	2,375	56	12	0.3	–70.7%

 

For the week ending Sunday, March 28, 2021, arranged by "per 100k" 

	CURRENTLY HOSPITALIZED
State	Avg. this week	Per 100K	1-wk chg.
New Jersey	2,110	24	+10.1%
New York State	4,586	24	+1.1%
Washington, D.C.	134	19	–5.4%
Michigan	1,793	18	+48.6%
Maryland	921	15	+13.0%
Pennsylvania	1,703	13	+9.6%
Florida	2,866	13	–2.8%
Missouri	813	13	–5.9%
Georgia	1,397	13	–10.9%
Connecticut	429	12	+7.1%
Delaware	116	12	+7.7%
West Virginia	214	12	+15.9%
Virginia	1,002	12	–2.9%
Texas	3,385	12	–11.4%
Tennessee	795	12	+16.0%
Rhode Island	116	11	–10.9%
South Carolina	534	10	–6.7%
Illinois	1,264	10	+10.4%
Mississippi	286	10	–14.2%
Nevada	292	10	–6.4%
Kentucky	413	9	–9.6%
Massachusetts	629	9	+4.6%
Indiana	608	9	+0.6%
North Carolina	944	9	–4.2%
Louisiana	393	9	–7.3%
Arizona	621	9	–14.1%
South Dakota	73	8	+7.8%
Ohio	910	8	+5.1%
Alabama	373	8	–3.9%
Idaho	135	8	+14.0%
California	2,850	7	–15.3%
Iowa	197	6	+14.8%
Colorado	358	6	–3.5%
Minnesota	340	6	+16.2%
Arkansas	176	6	–25.4%
Maine	77	6	–3.1%
Nebraska	110	6	–14.9%
Oklahoma	223	6	–4.7%
New Mexico	115	6	–11.3%
New Hampshire	73	5	+3.2%
Washington	413	5	+5.0%
Puerto Rico	169	5	+23.6%
Utah	157	5	–18.9%
Alaska	32	4	–7.4%
Montana	47	4	–13.2%
Kansas	129	4	–4.6%
Vermont	25	4	+9.2%
Wisconsin	226	4	+5.5%
Oregon	127	3	–7.1%
Wyoming	17	3	+14.4%
Hawaii	37	3	+56.6%
North Dakota	18	2	+17.3%

Arranged by where this is going for the state:

CURRENTLY HOSPITALIZED
State	Avg. this week	Per 100K	1-wk chg.
United States	35,771	11	–0.5%
Hawaii	37	3	+56.6%
Michigan	1,793	18	+48.6%
Puerto Rico	169	5	+23.6%
North Dakota	18	2	+17.3%
Minnesota	340	6	+16.2%
Tennessee	795	12	+16.0%
West Virginia	214	12	+15.9%
Iowa	197	6	+14.8%
Wyoming	17	3	+14.4%
Idaho	135	8	+14.0%
Maryland	921	15	+13.0%
Illinois	1,264	10	+10.4%
New Jersey	2,110	24	+10.1%
Pennsylvania	1,703	13	+9.6%
Vermont	25	4	+9.2%
South Dakota	73	8	+7.8%
Delaware	116	12	+7.7%
Connecticut	429	12	+7.1%
Wisconsin	226	4	+5.5%
Ohio	910	8	+5.1%
Washington	413	5	+5.0%
Massachusetts	629	9	+4.6%
New Hampshire	73	5	+3.2%
New York State	4,586	24	+1.1%
Indiana	608	9	+0.6%
Florida	2,866	13	–2.8%
Virginia	1,002	12	–2.9%
Maine	77	6	–3.1%
Colorado	358	6	–3.5%
Alabama	373	8	–3.9%
North Carolina	944	9	–4.2%
Kansas	129	4	–4.6%
Oklahoma	223	6	–4.7%
Washington, D.C.	134	19	–5.4%
Missouri	813	13	–5.9%
Nevada	292	10	–6.4%
South Carolina	534	10	–6.7%
Oregon	127	3	–7.1%
Louisiana	393	9	–7.3%
Alaska	32	4	–7.4%
Kentucky	413	9	–9.6%
Rhode Island	116	11	–10.9%
Georgia	1,397	13	–10.9%
New Mexico	115	6	–11.3%
Texas	3,385	12	–11.4%
Montana	47	4	–13.2%
Arizona	621	9	–14.1%
Mississippi	286	10	–14.2%
Nebraska	110	6	–14.9%
California	2,850	7	–15.3%
Utah	157	5	–18.9%
Arkansas	176	6	–25.4%

[Ambergris]

A study in Israel, where the UK variant B.1.1.7. accounts for 90% of the Covid cases, found that the Pfizer vaccine is effective in preventing symptoms and sneeze transmission, including asymptomatic transmission.  The measurement is that it was " preventing symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections, COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, severe and critical hospitalizations, and deaths."  This study was largely funded by Pfizer, and that the data was gathered by Israel's extensive system of spy cameras watching for people exhibiting symptoms.

[Mother]

I keep trying to make sense of all the data and perhaps it is just me but none of it seems to correlate to any particular pattern.  Again, the enemy we can't see coming.  But thanks for posting these updates, Ambergris.  At least I can see where the states are going on any given week.  The county I live in here in Illinois was just put back on the warning list and will probably be set back into lower category of 'openness'.   

 

Thank you all for your prayers for my brother.  I haven't heard how he is this morning but MM, they started giving him the Antibody treatment as soon as he was diagnosed even though they wanted him in the hospital.  When his daughter talked to one of his nurses she was told that they've seen that treatment be very effective.  I can't help but wonder why it isn't given to everyone then.  

 

DH and I had a surprise Easter visit from some of our family complete with a ham meal and all the trimmings.  There were 7 of us adults and three children but we spent most of the evening around a campfire outside.  We did not have masks on, hard to do when you are eating, but we kept our distance and didn't hug (except for the one I gave my new little great grandson (5 months) whom I hadn't yet seen.  The day before we had spent some time with other family members outside and never got within ten feet of each other except for one man who persisted in walking up to me. (without a mask though I had one on).  Seeing family was WONDERFUL.   The underlying concern not so much.  Now the two week waiting period begins.  

[Homesteader]

The last I heard, the Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, was denied entry into Israel because he had not taken his second vaccine. Maybe he was to be part of that announcement in Israel about Pfizer's success in that country.  His first vacc was in December, so the second one is a bit overdue according to their own mfg. recommendations.   

I'm sorry to hear about your brother, Mother. My brother was pretty sick with what he called a 'bad case of the flu' it but didn't end up in the hospital. The whole family came down with it and aren't planning on getting the gene therapy this year. They did agree to live a better lifestyle and lose some weight.  Let us know how that Antibody therapy works on your brother.   

[Ambergris]

[Ambergris]

 

Countries reporting the most new infections per day:

INDIA       78,489

USA         64,560

BRAZIL    64,324

TURKEY  39,840

FRANCE  39,554

Countries reporting the most deaths each day

BRAZIL      2,747

USA              834

INDIA            465

ITALY            442

POLAND      439

[Mt_Rider]

6 hours ago, Ambergris said:

data was gathered by Israel's extensive system of spy cameras watching for people exhibiting symptoms.

 

    Oye! 

 

I was unhappy to see HAWAII near the top of the Deaths per 100K chart for the week.   

 

 

MtRider  ...thanks for the data, Ambergris...... {even if we don't like what we see}   

[Ambergris]

 
Asia/MidEast countries reporting the most new infections each day (7 day average)

India               84,313

TURKEY         41,289

IRAN               11,569

PHILIPPINES  10,215

BANGLADESH 6,221

 

New reported deaths

INDIA          490

INDONESIA 176

TURKEY       175

IRAN            122

JORDAN      90

 

 

As for the world leader board, calculated on a seven-day average, it hasn't changed much since yesterday:

Countries reporting the most new infections each day 
INDIA                 84,313

USA                   65,185

BRAZIL              62,855

TURKEY            41,289

FRANCE            39,797

Countries reporting the most deaths each day
BRAZIL              2,698

USA                      817

INDIA                   490

ITALY                   425

POLAND              382

[Mother]

Ambergris, the charts helped put some of this into perspective.  Thanks.  Cases up, deaths down.  Just like they 'said' it would be if people got the vaccine but I still can't quite see how that is happening with there being so few, at that point, that had been vaccinated.  (at least here in the US)  

 

I'm not quite sure I trust the figures to be accurate. 

[Mother]

I thought I'd let you know that my brother came home today.  Even his doctor was surprised at how fast he was recovering.  He does have oxygen and meds and orders to rest but he's home.....   Thank you all for caring.  

[Ambergris]

Wonderful news!

Many fewer deaths per infection is what they are hoping to see with some of the vaccines, yes.  Remember that deaths run about two weeks behind infections also.

 

News:
RUSS BYNUM and MICHELLE R. SMITH
Tue, April 6, 2021, 3:42 PM
Nearly half (44%) of new coronavirus infections nationwide are in just five states:  New York, Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania and New Jersey, in the latest available seven-day period. Total U.S. infections during the same week numbered more than 452,000.  These states account for 22% of the U.S. population.

 

I heard passing mention of a spike in the last two days in the midwest, but I have not run the figures yet.

 

 

Edited April 7, 2021 by Ambergris

[Jeepers]

Fantastic news Mother! Thanks for the update.