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What a beautiful post! I'll be looking forward to reading the project post and maybe even joining with a project of my own when the harvest and getting things ready fro winter is over..

My canning books doesn't give that option so I don't know. It gives the option of soaking overnight and cooking 30 minutes OR boiling 2 minutes then letting them soak one hour, then boiling 30 minutes. Either way then you pressure can for 90 minutes.

That is what I would do if I were exposed to any contagious disease. I would not want to risk exposing anyone. I would stay home and isolate myself from even my family as much as possible. I don't understand the behavior of those who don't seem to care or don't realize what they are doing. We have people come to church running such a fever that their eyes are glazed over and they say "I didn't want to miss church!" Think people think!!!! We had to actually make an announcement at church during a flu epidemic a few years ago, asking people to please stay home if they had flu symptoms or had been exposed to someone who had the flu!

Aggression is a symptom in some cases, I've read so that means it does effect the mind, I would think. How could it not with all the bleeding from every surface in some patients?

It looks like I was putting the two quotes below together. into one thought. Quote from the KC document: "Important: Paper and cotton are cellulose based materials. Cellulose reduces the effectiveness of hypochlorite and hydrogen peroxide. Higher concentrations of the disinfectant can compensate. Do not leave paper towels or cotton cloths in open cleaning bucket containing diluted hypochlorite, for example, as the effective concentration of chlorine will diminish significantly24,25. The use of polypropylene wipes or wipes that contain coated cellulose specifically treated to prevent disinfectant inactivation and absorption exist but must be confirmed with official data from the manufacturer." Another one: "Important: The effectiveness of many disinfectants, including hypochlorite, are weakened or inactivated by the presence of organic contamination of the surface to be disinfected20,21. Organic substances in this context include blood, vomit, feces, pus and sputum. Another one "70-90% ethyl alcohol (ethanol) based hand sanitizers will destroy lipid enveloped viruses like Ebola very effectively if the organic soiling is not present. This higher concentration than normally recommended is appropriate for disinfecting non-enveloped viruses including Norovirus, thus providing an added safety factor for the more easily disinfected enveloped Ebola virus. (See further rationale for this non-enveloped virus safety factor in the Surface Disinfection section.) The alcohol based hand sanitizer can also be used after a soap and water wash first to remove organic matter (soiling), if present."

1) Chlorine bleach will degrade if a cellulose product [cotton, paper, etc] is left in the solution. But using paper towels (with gloves) to clean with will not reduce the percentage of bleach that quickly. This is my point. The wipes are left in the solution and sit on the store shelves for who knows low long, but as someone said, the Clorox wipes aren't necessarily chlorine bleach but the KC article did say other disinfectants also. That's why I thinks they are a waste of money. What material is the actual wipe made from? It looks like some kind of paper to me. Do the home made wipes recipes use chlorine bleach?

So, since cellulose weakens the effectiveness of chlorine bleach and other disinfectants all those Clorox wipes people buy are basically worthless?

Wonderful!! I just got a call from a friend about free apples. Pears are hard to find around here. You can't even buy them except in the grocery store, no bushels or bins like we buy apples. I can them in white grape/apple juice and we eat them on our hot cereal. Yum! We dehydrate them too.

Oh that's a bummer! I'm sorry.

We cook chopped greens tender, as if to eat them, then dehydrate them. Since they are cooked, you can just eat them dry and they have a nice crunch.

I have Centurylink and the site was gone fro me for 3 days at least. The link would go to a site that said Network Solutions and said the site was up for renewal. I really missed it and I'm SO glad it's back!

How exciting!! I can imagine how tired you are. Hopefully, you won't have to wait until November

living in a world of deceit....where truth is in shorter supply than bleach and gloves." Ain't that the truth!

Praying!

Ia seems to me that there is a lot of hopeful guessing going on among the leadership!

I think so to.

I think he really has no concept of what he should be doing or not doing. Instant gratification has always been his goal and everything is all about him. It's sad but we have exhausted ourselves trying to keep him safe and healthy. The doctor told C this morning that he is not a candidate for home care, he must go into a nursing home at least for awhile. His son and DIL have invited him to live with them but he didn't want to. Now the dr says it's not possible. C has tried so hard because she promised her sister J that she would see that he got the care he needed. J knew he couldn't live on his own and was worried about him. He is like a spoiled child, really.

Thanks for the prayers too! R fell out of the bed last night and was talking crazy so C called the rescue squad. She and DH went to the hospital and got home about 5:15 this morning. His blood sugar was 36 at the hospital last night then dropped to 22 later.

Thanks for replies! He only takes glipizide, no insulin. C said they are checking his blood sugar really often but she didn't give a time frame. They gave him lunch after the "snacks" to try and raise his BS but he refused the lunch. He said he was saving it for his BIL. He actually makes no effort to try and control his blood sugar. He eats what he wants, when he wants or did at home. C has fixed healthy food for him while she's been staying with her sister for the past few months and now while she's here and he eats it. Then if she's gone, he'll eat a whole box of Little Debbie cakes and 7 cups of coffee or a whole apple pie. He can't find the stews, meatballs, etc. that C leaves in the freezer for him but he can go to the store and buy junk. I though of reactive hypoglycemia and need to look it up. I also wondered if a tumor on the pancreas could do this or would it be more likely to cause higher bs?

My BIL is in the hospital. This is the one who just lost his wife. His blood sugar is very unstable and has dropped as low as 22 but the strange thing is, they can't get it to go above 80. They've given him peanut butter sandwiches, milk and even soft drinks and it just goes up and down, say from 60 down to 30, but never above 80. What could cause that? He has a UTI but they said that wouldn't cause it. He has to have someone with him every second because he gets out of bed and pulls the IV's out and is talking non-stop craziness. DH's sister C and her husband W have been with him. I have this crazy cold and sinus mess so I haven't gone. I would be asking the doctors what they are checking for but C doesn't. She just knows they are doing tests but never asks what. Drives me nuts! Any ideas?

Seems like I read something about pigs too but I don't know where or even if!

I just read this article that was linked to on Survival Blog http://www.naturalnews.com/047118_Ebola_pandemic_US_government_American_cities.html# Some of the items he addresses seem to have been dealt with but scroll down to the comment section and read the comment by Vernon Weathers referring to FB comments by Ruth Ray. There is certainly some food for thought there!!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outbreak Interview with the doctor who discovered the Ebola virus

Just a thought, last night after dark, we were out covering things in the garden before the freeze. We noticed how many FEET our breath carried because we could see it in the cold air. Those are moisture droplets and we don't think much about how far they go in the daylight because we don't' see them. I was concerned about the suspected case in HI because our pastor's wife and daughter were there. They came home Oct 2. I was glad to here that the person did not have Ebola but still they were on an international flight with who knows who. So the doctor who was treated in NE is back in the hospital. Does that mean he was contagious during the time he was home? We very rarely eat out. DH took BIL to Knoxville for his cancer check and they ate out Oct 1. The kids and I pretty much never do because of our food allergies. We don't go to large gatherings but we go to church and some of our friends there and in the neighborhood do. Pretty soon the area will be flooded with H2B or whatever letter they use now workers for the Christmas tree season. They come from Mexico and various Central and South American countries and are here until mid-Dec. My cousin has a big operation and often calls on DH or DS to check our a tree baler or other machinery. DH is not very conscious of such things and worrying about disinfecting hard surfaces, etc. That troubles me!