Ebola

[Jakk]

He did die!!

 

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/305795#.VDIHPdhF_xr.facebook

 

ETA: This is apparently a rumor. Reuters, which is stated as being the source, doesn't confirm this at all and says the guy is still fighting for his life.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Jakk

[Jeepers]

Did he die or not? The Israeli paper link calls him Thomas A Duncan. I thought his middle name was Eric. Or am I thinking of someone else?

[sassenach]

Jeepers, I don't think I could handle a novel about it. If this disease gets going here in the US , in North America, it will be one big mess and chaos will result. So, I am just trying to get ready. I hope it doesn't kick in but it just may do that. Epidemics like this just are a mess , and people are not as civilized as they were in the early 1900s. Or even the Depression years.

 

Knowing enough already, and knowing what society is like now. well, I can already imagine it but just don't want to go there in my mind. It already has me very concerned and I would rather do stuff than read right now. Not that I don't do plenty but its about preps and how to do stuff, in between chores.

 

In fact I am really not reading any novels or anything right now. I just want to get stuff done. They will be there later when I feel like it.

 

And that is saying a lot since I love to escape into a good book.

Edited October 6, 2014 by sassenach

[sassenach]

no, the Liberian man is still in Dallas hospital, but was getting worse last night they said on media news.............. and remember wordpress is full of bloggers.

[sassenach]

Reuters has become very questionable lately.... so take it with a grain of salt and the typical news channels will do updates and corrections , however they may be up to two days late on some news items.

 

One of the problems with the Liberian man is he was initially sent home , and he was around a lot of people and evidently had contact with a homeless man, who was arrested or detained for isolation and treatment. , in Dallas , but had been walking around , homeless, probably hanging with his buddies , going around the city , gosh knows where......... for at least a few days. check CBS Dallas online for updates on that.

 

LEO or CDC types found him and he was being checked out , possibly isolated for now? Well, he at least has a chance to clean up and have food three times a day and IV fluids if he needs them, etc etc. In a warm place that is reasonably clean if he is in isolation.

 

I have no idea if he has any symptoms, yet. It takes up to 21 days to exhibit them. 8 to 21 days.

 

The other problem is there are Africans trying to just walk over the border like everyone else, their attitude is they will get cured here in the US. That is another major loophole. If they are sick, they are exposing everyone along their route they took and when they get to the border, if they go through a gate, well, all the border patrol agents and all the people squeezing through so to speak.

 

These are serious loose cannons! I am just waiting for the ball to drop now.

Edited October 6, 2014 by sassenach

[Daylily]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outbreak

 

Interview with the doctor who discovered the Ebola virus

[Twilight]

 

http://allafrica.com/stories/2014093...html?viewall=1

 

 

http://www.trust.org/item/20141003133327-a8qor/?

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/06/health/ebola-liberia/

 

 

[mommato3boys]

Just posted an article in the Edge that calls for travel restrictions. My gut is screaming at this, it may get ugly fast folks. Be Ready!

[Jeepers]

Spanish nurse is suspected of Ebola infection

Oct 6th 2014 3:20PM
MADRID (AP) - In what is the first reported incident of Ebola transmission outside Africa, a Spanish nurse who treated a missionary for the disease at a Madrid hospital tested positive for the disease, Spain's health minister said Monday.

The female nurse was part of the medical team that treated a 69-year-old Spanish priest who died in a hospital last month after being flown back from Sierra Leone, where he was posted, Health Minister Ana Mato said.

The woman went to the Alcorcon hospital in the Madrid suburbs with a fever and was placed in isolation. Mato said the infection was confirmed by two tests and that the nurse was admitted to a hospital on Sunday.

The woman's only symptom was a fever, Antonio Alemany, Madrid director of primary health care, told a news conference. Alemany said authorities are drawing up a list of people the nurse had contact with.

The Spanish priest the nurse helped treat was Manuel Garcia Viejo, who died Sept. 25, becoming the second Spanish missionary to fall victim to the deadly virus. In August, a 75-year-old Spanish priest, Miguel Pajares, was flown back to Spain from Liberia, but died after being treated with the experimental Ebola medicine ZMapp.

World Health Organization officials couldn't immediately be reached after office hours to comment on the case.

The virus that causes Ebola spreads only through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person who is showing symptoms.

In West Africa, the disease has spread quickly to family members who cared for the sick or handled their bodies after death.

The World Health Organization estimates has the latest Ebola outbreak has killed more than 3,400 people.


http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/06/spanish-nurse-is-suspected-of-ebola-infection/20973468/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D541267

[Mt_Rider]

As the line in the movie Contagion goes: "Bad time to be a Rhesus monkey..." Also a bad time to have any job associated with medical issues.

 

MtRider

[dogmom4]

On the news tonight it said the Dallas guy is getting some kind of experimental drug...not Zmapp tho. It also said the Spanish lady first had a mild fever on Sept 29?...and went on vacation.How are they going to track down all the people she had contact with?? The reporter was wondering why they weren't saying where. Sounds like she didn't go into the hospital until yesterday or today. Can't you spread it if you have a fever?

[Daylily]

I just read this article that was linked to on Survival Blog

 

http://www.naturalnews.com/047118_Ebola_pandemic_US_government_American_cities.html#

 

Some of the items he addresses seem to have been dealt with but scroll down to the comment section and read the comment by Vernon Weathers referring to FB comments by Ruth Ray. There is certainly some food for thought there!!

[sassenach]

The Spanish woman is a nurse and was in contact, but working, with an ebola patient who died. Not vacationing, from what CNN said . There is another person also possibly ill , these two people are in Spain. I did not hear of connection but was busy with something. This is per official statements from Spanish Health Authorities in the last day or so.

[sassenach]

One of the main problems there are in our health care places, hospitals, is there is a major shortage of IV fluids ( and no company that produces them is stepping up production currently ). IV fluids are not only important for average fluid replacement and surgery recovery, etc , they are going to be in dire need of a very large supply if many get ill with Ebola , here. Not fear mongering, but heard this is a fact.

It takes months to get all the contracting and production done to bring up levels, just like it has for Insulin, which is much better supply levels now, but there was quite a shortage going on.

 

 

Also, noted last night, when they were talking about Ebola, the second type that is prevalent ( airborne) and not as deadly , is getting more of a foothold and creeping ( quickly) in transmission towards the countries in Africa that have the more deadly type of Ebola epidemic. This can combine in mutations and change things ,probably for the worse.

[ArmyOfFive4God]

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-journalist-ebola-nebraska-treatment/story?id=25987193

 

US Journalist Believes He Got Ebola While Cleaning Infected Car

Oct 6, 2014, 1:23 PM ET

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The American journalist with Ebola who arrived at a Nebraska hospital today believes that he may have gotten infected when he got splashed while spray-washing a vehicle where someone had died from the disease.

Ashoka Mukpo arrived at the Nebraska Medical Center this morning after being flown directly from Liberia.

“He's strong and his symptoms are not more advanced then when he talked to us before he left which is a relief,” his father Dr. Mitchell Levy said at a news conference today. He said his son has a fever and slight nausea.

"Likely he will go into the next phase where his symptoms will be more severe," Levy said.

Levy said that his son is “not certain” when he got the disease, but believes that he could have gotten infected by some of the spray back that came when he was using chlorine to disinfect a car.

"It was a vehicle that somebody had died in," Levy said.

Mukpo, 33, had been hired as a freelance cameraman by the NBC News crew earlier last week before testing positive for the disease on Thursday.

“He was around the [Ebola] clinic. He was filming inside the clinic,” Levy said.

 

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Levy and his wife, Diana Mukpo, arrived in Omaha Sunday night ahead of their son’s arrival this morning, and they said that he appears to be in good spirits.

Mukpo had spent two years in Liberia working for an NGO before returning to the United States in May. When he told his parents that he felt compelled to return in September, they tried their best to dissuade him.

“I told him I thought he was crazy,” Levy said at the press conference held at the Nebraska Medical Center.

“And I begged him from a mother's perspective saying ‘Please don’t go.’ But there was nothing I could do. He was determined to go,” Diana Mukpo said.

Levy recalled his son's reaction being diagnosed with Ebola.

"His first reaction was I’m sorry I put myself in this situation for you guys... But I think, of course he’s of two minds. He has some regrets, but he’s still proud of what he’s doing and I’m sure he’ll go back to doing things just like this," Levy said.

Mukpo is the second American to be treated at the facility. The Nebraska hospital treated Dr. Richard Sacra last month after he also contracted the disease in Liberia.

The Nebraska Medical Center is one of only four biocontainment units throughout the United States. There is another unit at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland, one in Missoula, Montana, and a third at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, which is where Dr. Kent Brantley and nurse Nancy Writebol, the first two Americans to catch the disease, were treated.

Rosanna Morris, the chief nursing officer and chief operating officer at the Nebraska Medical Center, said that there will be two nurses with Mukpo at all times and they will be tasked with checking his temperature every hour or two, and running lab tests upwards of three times a day.

"We're really happy that his symptoms are not extreme yet," Levy said. "We're still in a process of discussing with his physicians and the team here what medications they're going to give him."

Mukpo's mother told ABC News affiliate WLNE-TV earlier that the family has been coordinating with the State Department.

According to his mother, Ashoka Mukpo had spent two years working for a Liberian NGO before returning to the United States earlier this summer.

Ashoka Mukpo contributed to reports for various news outlets before getting sick, but also shared emotional updates on his personal Facebook page.

"Man oh man I have seen some bad things in the last two weeks of my life," he wrote in one such post on Sept. 18, two weeks before testing positive for the disease. "How unpredictable and fraught with danger life can be. How in some parts of the world, basic levels of help and assistance that we take for granted completely don't exist for many people."

[dogmom4]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0HV1MC20141006?irpc=932

 

The nurse was one of a specialist team who treated elderly priest Manuel Garcia Viejo at the Madrid hospital Carlos III when he was repatriated from Sierra Leone with Ebola on Sept 21. He died four days later.

 

Garcia Viejo was kept in isolation during his treatment last month and officials said they followed a strict protocol designed to protect health workers and patients at the hospital.

 

The nurse who has since fallen ill only entered Garcia Viejo's room twice, once after his death, Alemany said.

 

Health authorities said she had also helped treat Miguel Pajares, who had been working in Liberia when he came down with the disease. He was airlifted back to Spain on Aug 7 and died five days later.

 

ON HOLIDAY

 

The Spanish nurse went on holiday immediately after Garcia's death on Sept 25 and began feeling sick on Sept 30, said Alemany. He did not say where the nurse went on holiday.

 

"We have started studying all of the contacts the patient had since her symptoms began, including the health professionals who have been treating her," Alemany said. The nurse's husband was also being monitored, he said.

[sassenach]

thanks for clarifying, dogmom..... yea this stuff takes time to build up in the blood before symptoms show. Which makes it a lot harder to verify quickly.

[Jeepers]

Snipped from AO5's post #290:

"Levy said that his son is “not certain” when he got the disease, but believes that he could have gotten infected by some of the spray back that came when he was using chlorine to disinfect a car."

 

Does that mean you can get Ebola from a 'spray back' of chlorine? I thought chlorine (bleach) killed the germ? I would imagine that germ would have been diluted too.

[ArmyOfFive4God]

Snipped from AO5's post #290:

 

"Levy said that his son is “not certain” when he got the disease, but believes that he could have gotten infected by some of the spray back that came when he was using chlorine to disinfect a car."

 

Does that mean you can get Ebola from a 'spray back' of chlorine? I thought chlorine (bleach) killed the germ? I would imagine that germ would have been diluted too.

 

I read that article & wondered if I was the only one that saw HOLES in it. Yes, plural. :/

[Mt_Rider]

RE: back spray of chlorine cleaning......

 

I think it goes back to my earlier question: What kills germs ON CONTACT and what kills germs after minutes.

 

I believe that alcohol based products kill on contact but bleach has to sit a while. [but don't quote me].

 

 

Was it the Lysol commercial that claims to kill germs ON CONTACT?

 

 

We do need to know this when stocking up.....and when wiping down surfaces [like public restrooms, grocery cart handles, etc]

 

 

 

I just read a bunch of stuff on this and ....am still a bit unsure.

 

 

MtRider ....did NOT use "the facilities" during my recent grocery shopping...but that store [unlike Walmarts] didn't have the hand sanitizer at the door..... so I was touching the handles of disability cart for an hour. Aiieeee.....retrain for surgeon's techniques and protocols.

Edited October 7, 2014 by Mt_Rider

[Mt_Rider]

:runcirclsmiley2:

 

 

REMINDER: Please remember that an overly EXUBERANT reaction to this might be as deadly as any disease we're trying to avoid. DO NOT MIX ANY CHEMICALS TOGETHER......hoping for better results. Do not mix ANYTHING ELSE with bleach. Never mix two types of cleaning products without a realllllly good background in chemistry. Just don't fall into a fear-driven fever of

 

I WILL CLEAN! I WILL MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAN FOR MY FAMILY! ...... and then poison them!

 

 

 

MtRider ..... just a reminder cuz I know some folks in my acquaintance that tend to do this.... [with bug killers too....] Don't double up and mix toxic substances of any kind!

Edited October 7, 2014 by Mt_Rider

[sassenach]

LYsol will sanitize or clean in 30 seconds, only kill bacteria and viruses after 30 minutes!

bleach probably twenty minutes to be safe.. boiling takes 20 mins solid boil for things that can be boiled.

[sassenach]

Neil Cavuto, 4pm EST foxnews, WHO reports now that first case is in Spain , spread of Ebola in EU now inevitable.

[Jeepers]

Ebola escapes Europe's defenses; pet dog must die

(Bolding below mine)

 

Oct 7th 2014 4:22PM

MADRID (AP) - Health officials in Spain rushed to contain the Ebola virus Tuesday after it got past Europe's defenses, quarantining four people at a Madrid hospital where a nursing assistant got infected and persuading a court that the woman's dog must die.

 

The first case of Ebola transmitted outside Africa, where a months-long outbreak has killed more than 3,400 people, is raising questions about how prepared wealthier countries really are. Health workers complained Tuesday that they lack the training and equipment to handle the virus, and the all-important tourism industry was showing its anxiety.

 

Medical officials in the United States, meanwhile, are retraining hospital staff and fine-tuning infection control procedures after the mishandling of a critically ill Liberian man in Texas, who might have exposed many others to the virus after being sent away by a hospital.

 

In Africa, the U.S. military was preparing to open a 25-bed mobile hospital catering to health care workers with Ebola, before building a total of 17 promised 100-bed Ebola Treatment Units in Liberia. The virus has taken an especially devastating toll on health care workers, sickening or killing more than 370 in the hardest-hit countries of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone, where doctors and nurses were already in short supply.

 

And as the disease moved from a seemingly distant continent to the doorsteps of the world's largest economies, government leaders faced growing pressure to ramp up responses. Spanish opposition parties called for the resignation of Health Minister Ana Mato, and the European Union demanded answers to what went wrong.

 

Obama administration spokesman Josh Earnest said Tuesday that more passenger screening measures would be announced "in the next couple of days," even though the White House remains "confident in the screening measures that are currently in place."

 

The nursing assistant in Madrid was part of a special team caring for a Spanish priest who died of Ebola last month after being evacuated from Sierra Leone. The nursing assistant wore a hazmat suit both times she entered his room, officials said, and no records point to any accidental exposure to the virus, which spreads through direct contact with the bodily fluids of a sickened person.

 

The woman, who had been on vacation in the Madrid area after treating the priest, was diagnosed with Ebola on Monday after coming down with a fever, and was said to be stable Tuesday. Her husband also was isolated as a precaution. Another quarantined nurse tested negative, but a man who traveled in Nigeria remained in isolation.

 

Madrid's regional government even got a court order to euthanize and incinerate the couple's mixed-breed dog, Excalibur, against their objections, without even testing the animal. A government statement said "available scientific information" doesn't guarantee that infected dogs can't transmit the virus to humans.

 

Some reports in medical journals suggest that dogs can be infected with Ebola without showing symptoms, but whether they can spread the disease to people is unclear.

 

Ebola's source in nature hasn't been pinpointed. The leading suspect is a certain type of fruit bat, but the World Health Organization lists chimpanzees, gorillas, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines as possibly playing a role in spread of the disease. Even pigs may amplify infection because of bats on farms in Africa.

 

Spanish authorities also were tracking down all the woman's contacts, and put more than 50 other people under observation, including her relatives and fellow health care workers. "The priority now is to establish that there is no risk to anybody else," emergency coordinator Fernando Simon said.

 

Even so, the potential repercussions of Ebola's presence in Europe became clear, as shares of Spanish airline and hotel chain companies slumped in Tuesday's trading. Spain is Europe's biggest vacation destination after France, and investors were apparently spooked that the deadly virus could scare away travelers.

 

The afflicted woman, reportedly in her 40s and childless, was not identified to protect her privacy, but nursing union officials she had 14 years' experience. Spanish officials said she had changed a diaper for the priest and collected material from his room after he died.

 

Dead Ebola victims are highly infectious, and in West Africa their bodies are collected by workers in hazmat outfits.

 

The Madrid infection shows that even in countries with sophisticated medical procedures, frontline health care workers are at risk while caring for Ebola patients. Some two dozen health workers protested outside a Madrid hospital Tuesday, where union representative Esther Quinones complained that they lack resources and training.

 

In the United States, health care providers are implementing many precautions - reviewing triage procedures, creating isolation units, and even sending actors with mock symptoms into New York City's public hospital emergency rooms to test reactions.

 

"You never know when (an Ebola) patient's going to walk in," said Dr. Debra Spicehandler, an infectious disease expert at Northern Westchester Hospital in Mount Kisco, New York. "Education is key to controlling this - education of the public and of health care workers."

 

CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden said Tuesday that infectins of health-care workers tend to happen when a medical team is dealing with Ebola for the first time, or a team is overburdened and losing its ability to focus on containment. For this reason, the CDC advises six-week limits on the tours of medical workers in outbreak areas.

 

Frieden said the agency is continuing to discuss increased screening of travelers from West Africa, and noted that the agency is already screening people as they leave the region. Of 36,000 people who answered questionnaires and had their temperatures checked, only 77 travelers were halted, and none ended up having Ebola, he said.

 

EDITED: to add link

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/07/ebola-escapes-europes-defenses-pet-dog-must-die/20974153/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl6%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D541935

Edited October 8, 2014 by Jeepers

[The WE2's]

Watched an interesting couple of youtubes from The Patriot Nurse.